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Amber · 06-04-2008, 04:43 PM

Ok, Hw...as for the priests molesting children...that is Catholicism. Totally different than Christianity. Please don't mistake the two. One worships Mary, the other, God.

No church that I've been to has every outlawed or condemned birth control. Sex is viewed as a source of reproduction...but ALSO as something to be enjoyed between a man and a woman who are married.

As for who is to say my beliefs are correct and others aren't? God did. Not me. Take it up with him.

I refuse to condemn anyone who doesn't believe the way I do. However, I will NOT miss a chance to talk about my Saviour, and I guess if that makes me politically uncorrect, then so be it. I've made no negative comments towards any religion, other than to say it's not the correct one. I don't believe they are. I also don't believe the sky is purple, but that's not a negative thing.

Amber · 06-04-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Good Wolf

That is my exact thoughts on the matter, and I think it is morbid for someone to actually think anything else.

Here I go....

Religion was created as a form of government for those that do not fear the laws of man. It was created in order to obtain structure. Where did all the people who died go before Jesus, Abraham, or Mohamed walked the Earth? It had to have been Hades. If you say otherwise Zeus will strike you down with a lightning bolt! Ra will engorge you with the flames from the sun etc...

It is also a way for people to 'explain' everything. It gives answers to those that need them. It gives them something to get out of bed in the morning for. For some people it is too depressing to think that this life isn't a test, and that the pain, suffering, and self control that we experience and are forced to use is not in vain.

The only reason people practice religion is because they were taught it by the society they live in and they choose to believe in it. I refuse to believe that someone that is born in a different region from another person is going to 'hell' simply based on the prominent religion in their geographic location.

If 'that is the way it works' then count me out. If I'm wrong then I'm going to 'hell' with a hell of a lot of good people. If 'eternal bliss' is for those that want to believe that other people are going to 'hell' because they don't believe what they do even if they haven't been exposed to it then I don't want to be part of the lemming heard that marches through the 'golden gates'.

The only thing I can say to this is...."religion" was around a lot longer than Jewish/American/Canadian whatever laws were ever thought of.

Kaytee · 06-04-2008, 04:47 PM

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Ok, Hw...as for the priests molesting children...that is Catholicism. Totally different than Christianity. Please don't mistake the two. One worships Mary, the other, God.

I am not Catholic but this is an aweful thing to say. Catholics are Christian and do not worship Mary. I was raised Catholic and went to a Catholic school. We did not worship Mary by any means. They are a Christian sect, just as Protestant is a sect.

Dadu2004 · 06-04-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber

Ok, Hw...as for the priests molesting children...that is Catholicism. Totally different than Christianity. Please don't mistake the two. One worships Mary, the other, God.

No church that I've been to has every outlawed or condemned birth control. Sex is viewed as a source of reproduction...but ALSO as something to be enjoyed between a man and a woman who are married.

As for who is to say my beliefs are correct and others aren't? God did. Not me. Take it up with him.

I refuse to condemn anyone who doesn't believe the way I do. However, I will NOT miss a chance to talk about my Saviour, and I guess if that makes me politically uncorrect, then so be it. I've made no negative comments towards any religion, other than to say it's not the correct one. I don't believe they are. I also don't believe the sky is purple, but that's not a negative thing.

I agree with you Amber, but have to correct you...I'm sorry.

1. Catholics don't worship Mary, but they're the only one's that pray to her. Catholicism is a form of Christianity...they worship God and Jesus as do we. The difference is they pray to Mary and saints.

2. Catholics don't believe in birth control, and it's against their decrees to use it.

I'm a recovered Catholic myself.

Amber · 06-04-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindy

See, I wish I could rectify it in my mind to believe that as well, but I just can't... I cannot for the life of me believe, for one moment that a child living in the Jungle who has never known the word of Jesus, is not getting into Heaven. Nor do I believe a devout Buddhist Monk would not get into Heaven. That's what I just can't wrap my mind around. I don't believe the God I know and love is that judgmental. I think we messed up the wording in some of what he meant when the diciples were divinely inspired to pen "God's words"

Children DO go to Heaven...so long as they're under the age of accountability. And before it's asked, there is no set age. It's whenever the child recognizes right from wrong, whenever conviction is placed upon their hearts.

Buddhist Monks....I'll have to do some research into what they believe and practice and get back to you on that one.

As for people living in remote places...that is what missionaries are for. And if, by chance (a very small, minute chance) someone has not heard the Word of God before they die, they cannot be held accountable for that. However, it's my belief everyone hears the Word of God at one point in their life, in one form or another.

HappyMomma · 06-04-2008, 04:49 PM

Actually, Catholics are Christians.

From my understanding they were the original Christians...

Protestant = Protesting the Catholic Church

Kaytee · 06-04-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyburning

I could care less about it saying that on the dollar, but I am one of the ones who believes religion should be left out of the classroom. Praying before class or at a football game or whatever is a-okay with me but a teacher in a classroom teaching religion as if it is fact bothers me, mainly because that is a subject for parents to handle at home, and I don't feel like explaining to my kid why I'm going to hell when I ask him how school was..

lol

I agree with you. I would not want a teacher of a public school to teach religion either. BUT it would not bother me in the least if they had a "religion" class. THa taught about other peoples way of thinking. I want my daughter to know about Judiasm and all the other many religions of the world.

Amber · 06-04-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sarushjr

I agree with you Amber, but have to correct you...I'm sorry.

1. Catholics don't worship Mary, but they're the only one's that pray to her. Catholicism is a form of Christianity...they worship God and Jesus as do we. The difference is they pray to Mary and saints.

2. Catholics don't believe in birth control, and it's against their decrees to use it.

I'm a recovered Catholic myself.

Baptists DO believe in birth control.

As for the praying, it's essentially the same thing as worship, isn't it? I mean, we need no mediator to take our prayers to God. Jesus became our intercessor.

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