Kaytee

Most people don't realize that Tater. Most parents just do it, because well its what you do right? Its cleaner and healthier for them to get done. From what I have seen now, this is just not true. I am sorry you circ'd without anyone telling you it was needed, but nothing you can do about it now. I am glad to hear your doc didn't really reccomend it though.
Now that you you know it has changed do you think you still would or not?

Also on side note on infection, I have heard that the infection rate of non-circ'd boys is the same as the infection rate of boys being circ'd. Its like 1% (guessing on percentage) of boys that are circumcised will get an infection, while the same percentage of boys will have actual problems with an uncirc'd penis.

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tater03

Now that I see that the infection rate and the cleanliness of it doesn't matter so much I would have to say no I wouldn't get it done today. I just went by what I had always been told and had read about it over the past years.

SageMother

I just feel that if cleanliness is an issue, then our fingernails and toe nails should be removed, along with the outer portion of our ears. They can be difficult to lean as well.

ON the infected circumcision issue, The infection rate that matches or is close to the same, doesn't seem to address the open wound infection, but closed skin.

dangermousemh

I don't know that the actual science is as one sided as comments in here or advice given by local health authorities - there is no unanimous agreement as to whether or not circumcision is good, bad or neutral - you will find competent credible doctors all over North America with differing view points on this topic.

I think that statements saying there is "no more issue or disagreement about cleanliness" is not scientifically speaking a factual assessment, although many doctors in the US and and Canada certainly are suggesting that the procedure is unnecessary.

http://who.int/hiv/mediacentre/infopack_en_1.pdf

Here we see WHO evidence that circumcision produces a reduced rate of HIV infection all other factors being equa,l a transmission rate for HIV being reduced by 50% is statistically relevant - this would seem to indicate some improvement with sores / infection in the circumsized adult male.

Also there is still very clear evidence that circumcision DOES reduce the amount of infection / cleanliness especially in babies and young children.

This is a matter of personal choice - I wouldn't judge parents either way - but the notion that there is no issue with infection or no benefit to circumcised boys, that one would only consider circumcision as a form of penile plastic surgery for babies - is in my view, not a very balanced look at the issue. Many thoughtful and informed parents still choose the procedure for their child.

fallon

At this point the actually science proves it makes little to no difference one way or another. As I said I was all set to circ my boy until the said it couldn't be done at birth. At that point I started looking into the topic pretty heavily. It all comes down to a choice, not good parents don't bad parents do, but a choice that we as parents should be free to make on our own. My reasons for not doing it are simply that at one yr old I don't feel the pain is worth the procedure, and I have a hard time justifying have my son put under to have surgery simply so he can look like his daddy. Now if after our visit to the urologist the if the Dr thinks it's what's best for my son and the facts prove that in his case he will benefit from this than I will go for it but the benefit MUST outweigh the risk.

Dangermousemh- could you provide for me the date of that study, as my son is still only 6 months old I'm always interest in differing info

Trina

I have never understood this debate. Every family should do what they think is right for their situation. It's no ones business whether our DS is circumcised or not. DH and I did research and made our decision. We don't judge other parents for deciding differently. We respect their right to do what they think is best.

Kaytee

Absolutly parents should be respecxted no matter their choice! No questions asked. We have to remember to debate issues not people.
Now i did bring up personal when I asked Tator if she still would., but that is just a curious question. Even if she said yes I would still, then so be it. It was just a question not part of the debate.




Anywys, most studies that show the HIV/AIDS correlation have been known to be skewed. Such as the big one that was done in Africa where they circumcised so many men and had an equal amount of non circumcized men. They then started the study immediately. The men who were circ'd had to abstane from sex for a certain amount of time. The results were also skewed becuase they researches then taught the circ'd men about ways to prevent STD's and even were known to hand out condoms to these men. The uncirc'd group were not given this information.
Yes the study did show that the circ'd men contracted HIV at a SLIGHTLY decreased rate, however as the study went on and the circ'd men ran out of the free condoms and became sexually active again, the hiv rate increased to be equal to the uncirc'd.
I will look up this study info now.

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FooserX

All I know is any boy who has NOT been circumcised is going to be laughed at in the locker room and in the bedroom and by girls his entire life. :-P

I'd rather my baby go through an hour of pain that he'll forget the rest of his life that go through his whole life being laughed at....but that's just me.

Teresa

Not when over half of all boys are now NOT circumcised, he shouldn't be...at least half his friends will look the same way. And, as a woman, can I just say there's not a single thing to laugh about. :evil grin:

I'd rather my child not have cosmetic surgery at one day old, and teach him that people who make fun of others are just uninformed and don't know any better...but that's just me.

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fallon

That's how I thought also Fooser, but any guy who is studying my boy enough to realize that his penis is different should probably think a little harder about himself. and a certian point women don't care much one way or another. Every women I have spoken to has said to leave him be due to their "experience" with men who have the same "condition" as my boy.