Kaytee

Fallon has alrady hashed out what my concerns were so I will not go into it again.
But i od want to say I did not say you were a spammer just that is sorta started appear that way and that I was going to keep reading your posts and see what you have to say.

On to the topic!!! lol
Please reread what I said in my first post. I also think that pharma companies are out of control. I think way to many people are overmedicated doing nothing but profiting the companies themselves. To say that ALL of the drugs out there are bad is well... in my opinion not right either. Some people do need drugs to live happy productive lives. I agree that there are many natural remedies to things and I am a big advocate of that. My daughter has never been on ANY drugs other then childrens Tylonal and gas drops (homeopathic ones at that), oh and she has had Motrim 2 or 3 times.
I do beleive antibiotics are over prescribed and that way to many children are being diagnosed with ADHD and put on meds. You can ask anyone here who is a regualr my stance on vaccinations. My daughter does not get most of the vaccinations that she HAS TO HAVE. Including them wanting to give her one she had a severe reaction to.
So slow down and if you have information to share, do so. More people should be educated on these topics then they can make educated decisions based on what is right for their family

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fallon

again, well said kaytee

sirius8

Kaytee: Thanks for your thoughts. You said: "To say that ALL of the drugs out there are bad is well... in my opinion not right either." I disagree and here's why. The body was never meant to take in the chemicals used in the drugs taken by may. They are synthetic and not natural. That they do eleviate the symptoms of the problem one has, is nto the issue. The drug will never cure or solve what is behind the problem. they never get to the root of your problem.

The drug may help in easing your situation for a time, but in the long run, it causes more damage to your body, in side effects, which in turn will cause you to go back to your doctor to get another preseciption for that problem. and on and on it goes, never getting to the root of the initial problem.

I am glad to hear that you do not take drugs and even happier to hear that you refrain from vaccines.

Regards
Terry

Kaytee

You have to look at everything though not just snippits. If your child (God forbid) came down with childhood Leukimea(spelling) you wouldn't give ANY type of medications? I would.
Now if my child had an ear infection (she never has) I would not jump to anitibiotcs, I would go natural remedies, which in the beggining would be probably breast milk in her ear. (She better hurry I want to wean before she turns 2 lol) HOWEVER it we try and try and her ears got worse, I would use antibiotics.

And with the vaccines, we do give some, just not all. I think that they are crazy about how much and how many types of vaccines there are. Like Polio, we don't vaccinate for polio, but if there was an outbreak, you better beleive we would.

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Tau

Terry,

Any time you synthesize something for the purpose of health treatment - you turn it into a drug. Just because its herbal, doesn't remove it from that qualifier.

I would be more interested in hearing about diet and what natural methodologies you support to "cure" diabetes - instead of some mystery product.

Fact of the matter is, if its a natural "cure" - then I can do it myself. If I require your product - its not really natural.

fallon

well said Tau

jtee

sirus8, I can assure that those who have responded to your messages up to this point are nice people and their intent is not hostile. They might disagree, but they don't attempt to hassle people like you probably have seen on other forums. Expect to be challenged when they don't agree, but it is the ideas\opinions\comments they are focusing on, not you as a person. .

sirius8

Jtee. I do not doubt that the people on the board are nice people. I think I am nice too. I am not here to attack anyone. Only to share the information I am on a few subjects. Without open communication, we cannot learn.

Tau: Your point may be legalisticly taken. After all the drug companies are doing all in their power to remove the natural products that do heal, from the market place by taking what does heal, patenting that ingredient and then having the FDA remove the product from the market place or making people pay extremely high price through the doctors and prescriptions. As an example, over in Europe, you must havea prescription to buy natural viramin E and it cost you $250 a bottle. This is what is coming to the USA and Canada by the end of Dec. 2009 under what is known as Codex Ailemetarious.

The product is natural herbs that have been blended to create an aid for diabetes. As stated, it was descovered in Canada and has helped thousands of people.

The product is a safe health food that restores the body's own ability to control blood glucose levels. It gently helps to control blood glucose levels not only temporarily, but also results in long term permanent or semi-permanent molecular level changes. It also helps to regenerate the insulin receptors of muscle or liver cells. It also helps to regenerate the insulin producing ß (beta) cells in the pancreas. This is very important. These two molecular level changes improve insulin production and binding, and therefore assist the body to control blood glucose levels independently. These changes, in turn, assist the body to recover glucose metabolism normalcy. Also, it can lead to the reduction and possible total elimination for dependency on synthetic medication and insulin injections to control glucose levels. It is an all-natural, safe, and gentle herbal product with no harmful side effects.

As for diet, there are many generally great diets that one can choose from, that will aid diabetes. The net is full of them.

However I believe that going back to all organic natural raw foods is one of the best ways to help and prevent diabetes. A completely health immune system with prevent almost all diseases. An alcaline Ph body will also help and prevent diseases like diabetes. If the body is acidic, poor health can come in.

Stay away from soy and dairy products. Do cleanses to get rid of the toxins in your body. Toxins are the number one cause for sickness. Stay away from ALL so-caller sweetrners, like aspertame, etc. Keep away from MSG and chemical drugs. Excersize daily. Walking is one of the best.

Those are a few things that can be done to get into better health for an all around good health condition.

The two points I highlited in red are the things the product does that you cannot do on your own, Tau. Drugs have not been able to accomplish this and I am in doubts that it ever will.

Thanks for the question
Terry

Tau

Terry,

Your statements only confirm that your product synthesizes the natural ingredients. That is exactly what drug companies do - they take natural ingredients and reformulate them for the largest impact. Health Food products just do so to a lesser extent. That doesn't change the fact that they both use the same process for a similar end result.

If your product is natural - then it comes from specific organic material found in nature. That may be herbs, animal products, etc... You cannot tell me that your product is both natural, and something I cannot gather together on my own from the source itself. You simply cannot have it both ways.

I agree that politics are annoying, but they don't really have any relevance to the discussion points I brought to the table. Telling me that there is a global pharmaceutical conspiracy doesn't change the fact that you are promoting an herbal drug.

Another point I want to bring up is the notion that herbs are automatically safe because they are herbs. This is both naive and dangerous. Herbs are just as hazardous as any pharmaceutical drug - and need to be treated with both respect and foreknowledge. Be aware of what the active ingredients are, what they do, and how they interact with other drugs and health problems, before ingesting them.

I studied for 3 years under Rosemary Gladstar, and have yet to learn of any herbs that change glucose uptake or storage at a cellular level. I find such claims to be both extreme and improbable - especially as you seem to be unwilling to talk about what herbs are used to make your product.

sirius8

Tau: what ever. I do not care if you studied under King Tut. Just because you have nor heard of the results mentioned, does not mean they do not exist.

I am not the creator of the product, nor do I know how the ingredienst in the product work synergistically. I am only bringing you the information about the product. If you want to check it out go to the companies web site, contact the developer of the product and hash it out with them.

It is NOT my product as you all seem to think. It is a product that I take that has lowered my sugars and is helping me. If you can't accept that, don't.

The product is called Eleotin and the companies web site is
http://www.eastwoodcompanies.com/eleotin/index1.php

You read their information, science results and information for yourself. You can accept it or reject it as you see fit.

As for the product itself, it was desscovered at a respectable diabetes centre in Alberta, canada. A research centre that has more than 3 years studing under some woman people may not know.

Regards
Terry