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Kaytee · 04-12-2008, 09:12 PM

just because a country lacks behind in some areas does not mean they lack behind all. Most other countries do not go to doctors for delivering babies. Labor is considered a disorder here and treated as a medical problem.

yulia · 04-13-2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaytee

just because a country lacks behind in some areas does not mean they lack behind all. Most other countries do not go to doctors for delivering babies. Labor is considered a disorder here and treated as a medical problem.

Exactly! here a pregnant woman is being treated as a very sick one! the whole bunch of tests are being constantly run, scare tactics freely used to make sure she remains a "good girl" for the doctors.

PS for MM. who is talking about Russia at all??? I won’t even go into the discussion, but the last time a went to a good Russian doctor, she told me (IN ADDITION to conventional meds that she prescribed) 1. to not rely completely on conventional meds and help my body by keeping it healthy by exercising; 2. to make sure I use probiotics right after finishing my antibiotics; 3. few herbs were prescribed in addition to conventional meds. And this was just a REGULAR conventional OB! WAY TO GO!

Trina · 04-13-2008, 08:21 AM

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with my first child it was a bad decision that I made due to lack of information (aka out of ignorance) and my trust in doctors. My son was a feetling breech and I did eventually believe my OB that it would be very risky to deliver it vaginally. What I didn't know back then, is that it is dangerous to deliver breech with american DOCTORS BECAUSE they are simply NOT trained to deliver breeches. A lot of midwifes deliver breeches on a regular basic with no problems what so ever, as do doctors of plenty of other countries around the world. My mom, by the way, delivered both me and my brother with no problems; my brother was a feetling breech and I was a frank one...duh...

With my second pregnancy I was trying to do a HBAC (home VBAC), but ended up with another c-section due to thick meconium. As we found out later, I had two openings in my scar and my daughter was a frank breech (with a hip dysplasia). So, Unlike my first c-section, I consider the second one being the right choice and therefore, do not regret it.

I was born in a Canadian hospital, feet first, vaginally, and almost died. The cord was wrapped around my neck, and I was blue from lack of oxygen. My Mom said a c-section was never mentioned as an option, but I think it should have been. I thank God my delivery had an happy ending.

I was in labor with my first baby for 48 hours. Fully dilated and no baby for HOURS. They finally took an x-ray and learned DS's head was wedged against my heart-shaped pelvis. NO baby would ever fit through. C-section was the only possible way to deliver for me.

yulia · 04-13-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Trina

I was born in a Canadian hospital, feet first, vaginally, and almost died. The cord was wrapped around my neck, and I was blue from lack of oxygen. My Mom said a c-section was never mentioned as an option, but I think it should have been. I thank God my delivery had an happy ending.

I was in labor with my first baby for 48 hours. Fully dilated and no baby for HOURS. They finally took an x-ray and learned DS's head was wedged against my heart-shaped pelvis. NO baby would ever fit through. C-section was the only possible way to deliver for me.

I bet your mom was made to labor/birth on her back in spite of gravity (instead of using it as a help). Plus when a woman labor on her back, the baby doesn’t receive as much oxygen as it would have received in pretty much any other position.
Midwifes, again deliver babies with cord wrapped around the neck (often few times) ALL THE TIME and they will tell you that this isn’t a big deal at all.

It very well might be that while your mom was not offered a c-section, the doctors still had no clue how to deliver a breech baby CORRECTLY. For example, when my head got stuck, my mom told me that the doctor stuck her fingers inside her and into my mouth and this way she got me “unstuck” in a second. Had she been not trained this specific method of delivering a breech baby, it would have been a VERY DANGOROUS situation which may result in a bad outcome.

Once again, I am very glad that in some cases (like my second one and yours) c-section IS an option, but there is no doubt that this major abdominal surgery is BADLY overused by american doctors.

budnkota · 04-13-2008, 11:19 AM

While the tone is often confrontational on it's own, the writing in red doesn't help much. It kind of fuels anger.

That said, like most forums, I beleive this one has an ignore feature. I do not like to repeatedly read the same thing, nor the tone it is generally written in, so I will be blocking her out.
I would recommend that if you clash with somebody, simply ignore them. Then they don't feel attacked and you aren't irritated...

budnkota · 04-13-2008, 11:24 AM

on second look, I don't see how to ignore, which surprises me. I've been on another forum for years with a lot of different personalities, and some love to bicker with one another. IGNORE saves everybody a lot of what they don't want to be exposed to, while still allowing participation in threads that may be of interest otherwise. I don't know the mods reasoning for not using this, but I think it's a very good thing to have...