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Old 01-30-2008, 05:59 PM   #41
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You still don’t understand what I’m saying.
I'm pretty sure she understands what you are saying...she's just giving her OWN opinon on the matter. Not agreeing with you doesn't mean she doesn't get it

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I'm pretty sure she understands what you are saying...she's just giving her OWN opinon on the matter. Not agreeing with you doesn't mean she doesn't get it
she is talking about immidiate reaction.
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Everything in life has both good and bad. It's a matter of waying your options and choosing what's best. Driving down the road is dangerous, cross the street and assuming the "walk" light means it's safe to walk but you have to make a decision to look before going. There's no perfect answer for anyone individual and why there's so many different types of parents.

And yes we did multilate our son and we are proud of it. We didn't consider it multiation though as the reasons that were explained to us by the doctors, our parents and what we learned in school told us it was the right thing to do.
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You still don’t understand what I’m saying. It would be so much easier if you just watched the movie. It’s sort of like a dream source of information; instead of spending
Hundreds of hours on digging info and reading studies/articles/etc you just watch it “all in one” where a person with 25 years of research put it all together beautifully!

Anyway, I am not really talking about immediate reaction (even though those are much more common than many people would think). I’m talking about totally messed up immune system (and when immune system is messed up, something HAS to give). That is why vaccines are heavily linked to a lot of nasty conditions as childhood cancers, autism, asthma, eczema, allergies, diabetes, ear infections and much more. It’s not a joke to inject mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde (and SO MUCH MORE) into blood stream! It does NOT go anywhere, it’s being accumulated in the body and when it gets too much, we see things like cancer, for example. Of course, everybody has their own “too much” mark, but you still going to hit it sooner or later if you keep injecting heavy metals and toxins into a child’s bloodstream.
You know I am usually a pretty easy going person and I totally get everyone has their own opinions but I have not agreed with the way you post on here. So here it goes,
I totally understand what you are getting at BUT do you understand what I am or anyone else is getting at? You are saying that I am wrong for what? Giving my kids vax's that their doctor (whom I trust) advises me to give them? I do not think you are right and I don't think you are wrong. IT IS YOUR OPINION/CHOICE! So please stop talking to people as if what they do in their own families is so horrible because they have a different viewpoint than you. One of the reason I like to get on here is to get different viewpoints about things. It helps me to fully understand and figure out what is BEST for our family. I do not appreciate being told that my kids are going to get some horrible disease for something I did when in fact you don't know. We will not know until years from now if I did the right thing or you did.
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Like others have said there are dangers to everything. You drive with your kids? Hell of a lot more dangerous. You let them swim in the ocean? An undertow can wisk them from you with ease. This is a risky world but risks must be taken to enjoy life. What if they get the disease the vaccine would have prevented? It is a double edged sword but one side is not as sharp as the other.
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What if they get the disease the vaccine would have prevented?.
Vaccination is NOT what wiped out diseases! They were STADILY declining LONG BEFORE vaccines even came to the picture! As did those diseases that we had no vaccines for! It happened due to better living conditions (soaps, clean water, refrigerators, etc) and better nutrition. Once again, you really need to research or watch the darn movie!

As for the risks. Car driving and ocean risks have NOTHING to do with risks from vaccinating. If anything, it has to do with the opposite, the risks of getting an vaccine preventable disease, most of which aren’t scary anyway if you learn about them more.
As for vaccines, it’s not about taking a CHANCE (like with driving), it’s about 100% fact of injecting the whole bunch of VERY dangerous neurotoxins and heavy metals along with foreign DNA (human DNA from aborted fetuses and animal DNA), animal tissues that have NOT been tasted for LOTS of different viruses/diseases directly into your baby’s bloodstream, bypassing all the natural ways of infection/virus NORMALLY entering the body.

There is a LOT to think about. It really IS scary stuff. And this is true that everyone should make a decision that works the best for their family, but it is always a good idea to really learn about it as much as possible.
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Yulla, this is my last attempt to get you to understand why people take such offense to your info.

Yes i agree that giving kids the vaccines are casusing some really bad things to happen to our children, but when you present information to people who would be willing to listen if not for your approach, you are doing more damage to your cause then good.
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Yulla, this is my last attempt to get you to understand why people take such offense to your info.

Yes i agree that giving kids the vaccines are casusing some really bad things to happen to our children, but when you present information to people who would be willing to listen if not for your approach, you are doing more damage to your cause then good.
very well said...I agree 100%
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And yes we did multilate our son and we are proud of it. We didn't consider it multiation though as the reasons that were explained to us by the doctors, our parents and what we learned in school told us it was the right thing to do.
It's beyond me to understand how some parents can be too afraid to be 'confused by fact' to admit the truth.

My heart always aches for those parents who circ’d their baby and later learned the truth and deeply regretted it. I can only imagine what kind of pain they must be going through.

However, I just don’t get parents who learn that there are NO medical benefits to circ and how damaging it really is, but they still keep insisting they are glad/proud they did it.

I am really curious to know what part of it makes you proud the most?!
Now that you know that there are NO medical benefits and your son was put through this agonizing torture for absolutely NO reason what so ever! By the way, I hope you had the guts to at least see what your son went through! As you can see on this video, the doctor claims that he uses anesthesia…well, make sure your speakers are on! So does that make you proud?!

Or perhaps you are proud of the fact that your son lost a very important part of his penis, loss of which will take away up to 75% of his glans sensitivity, dry them up plus it will completely change the way his penis operates taking a lot of sexual pleasure from both—your son and his future sexual partners.

Or maybe you are proud that your son has a very good chance of having tight or even painful erections, hairy or bent shaft due to too much foreskin removal?! It's not all that rare! And there is really NO way to know until he’s much older and his penis reaches its full size.

This generation of US women mostly had circ’d sexual partners. So for some of them intact penis might look exotic. But that’s about to change. Your son’s generation of girls will have sex with both intact and circ’d boys (since even now it’s about 50%-50% and is steadily declining; in states like CA or OR it’s just about 25% of boys who are cut). So, for them intact penis won’t be something exotic any more, but the normal default state. So, the girls will know exactly what your son is missing, because circ’d penis feels VERY different and not in a good way! Your son will most likely know what he’s missing as well, since there is SO MUCH info out there these days when internet is easily assessable and I bet he will be very curious to find out why he’s missing such a big chunk of his penis (since at least half of his friends will be intact). So, be ready to answer some heartbreaking questions! And don’t forget to tell him that you were proud of putting him through EXTREMELY painful and damaging penile reductive surgery even AFTER you learn just how bad it really is…

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his son is 12 so I have to say you have no idea what you are talking about...most boys his age will be cut. Read through some threads before you start bashing members about thing you have no facts to back up
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