Isn't this a depressing world/thread Parenting Headlines Discuss Isn't this a depressing world/thread in the Parenting News Feeds forums; Originally Posted by gr8mom If you're refering to the great flood in genesis 6, it says they were so wicked that he was sorry he'd made them. Perhaps ...

[Ari2]

Originally Posted by gr8mom

If you're refering to the great flood in genesis 6, it says they were so wicked that he was sorry he'd made them. Perhaps even including beastiality in their sins since he decided to destroy most of the animals as well. I think it's wrong to equate the flood to a human being taking another's life. I believe I said "God doesn't kill" but I meant "God doesn't murder."

I'm asking this sincerely because I've never understood this.

If one believes that God caused a flood that killed everyone but Noah and the folks on his ark, then that means God killed fetuses inside pregnant women, newly born babies...everyone. How could this be justified? Just the thought of a giant wooden boat bumping up against a tide of floating dead bodies, both human and animal, makes the whole story about Noah and the flood very disturbing to me.

[Lissa]

Only God has the right to take life. That is very clear in the Bible.

[hwnorth]

Originally Posted by gr8mom

If you're refering to the great flood in genesis 6, it says they were so wicked that he was sorry he'd made them. Perhaps even including beastiality in their sins since he decided to destroy most of the animals as well. I think it's wrong to equate the flood to a human being taking another's life. I believe I said "God doesn't kill" but I meant "God doesn't murder."

Some people see God as a part of nature but even nature kills. Tornados, floods and other natural disasters. Does the fact that people die in these events mean we have the right to take lives? Absolutely not! What is your point? You said you aren't an atheist so what kind of "God" do you believe in?

No I'm not an atheist, as for what kind of "God" do I believe in.. my beliefs arent ones which could be translated nor explained in a few short paragraphs. You see the funny thing is, that you can try and "name" my beliefs, but even if I was to say Christianity, it doesnt mean we share the same beliefs, as everyone who ever read the Bible as we know it, interprets and translates it different

If your god is part of nature and controls all nature, just as he does all over mankind and living beings on earth... then would it would be fair to state that you believe your god would control natural disasters as well then? .. Or is that seen as separate.

I disagree with having the right to take a life... I belief we all have the right to take our own life if we so choose to. As well as others lives if requested. I also believe that pedophiles, serial killers etc, do not deserve to live, nor would they if I had a say in it... but that should be another thread.

My point in all of this was started from "I dont know how god puts up with the human race"


Ari2 - according to scripture, everyone will eventually sin, infants included, therefor.. again according to scripture, there "god" has the right to take these lives anytime he desires, as the ultimate punishment of sin is death.,.. therefore it is his right to destroy life... but no man has that right.

[hwnorth]

Question .... If we come across a dog, thats been hit by a car and severely mangled and injured ... death is certain, but it will be long and agonizing ...

Do we have a right to stop the suffering of that animal... or do we have to wait for god to release the animal from suffering ...
IE- Is it a sin to assist a critically injured animal to relieve its pain and suffering ?

[Lissa]

Originally Posted by hwnorth

Question .... If we come across a dog, thats been hit by a car and severely mangled and injured ... death is certain, but it will be long and agonizing ...

Do we have a right to stop the suffering of that animal... or do we have to wait for god to release the animal from suffering ...
IE- Is it a sin to assist a critically injured animal to relieve its pain and suffering ?

That all depends on if you are an animal welfarist or an animal rights activist.

[HappyMomma]

Originally Posted by hwnorth

according to scripture, everyone will eventually sin, infants included, therefor.. again according to scripture, there "god" has the right to take these lives anytime he desires, as the ultimate punishment of sin is death

Well shoot, that's just a depressing thought right there.

[Lissa]

*scratches head* Um...

Does anybody know Jesus here?

[hwnorth]

Lissa - Hes a Mexican friend of mine .. Hay Soos is how he pronounces it

[Lissa]

lol

[hwnorth]

I still wanna know the answer re- killing and injured dog ... in religious view