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Old 04-27-2008, 09:43 PM   #81
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Okay why am I not getting this?

So...WE as parents are supposed to expose them to everything and HOPE that they learn the basics like...simple math skills, reading, spelling, grammar, etc. WITHOUT teaching them but only IF they want to learn it?
it really isn't like that. and honestly, I really don't feel like arguing about the subject. school is always an alternative for those who aren't comfortable with unschooling.
if however, you are interested in finding out more, just go to the library, you will find more great books about unschooling than you can possibly imagine...

That is what unschooling about, after all…you got a question, find the answer .

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it really isn't like that. and honestly, I really don't feel like arguing about the subject. school is always an alternative for those who aren't comfortable with unschooling.
if however, you are interested in finding out more, just go to the library, you will find more great books about unschooling than you can possibly imagine...

That what unschooling is about, after all…you got a question, find the answer .
Now see... I wasn't trying to argue I was trying to understand and since you are well...a bandwagon jumper. I thought I would try to ask questions before giving an opinion. Personally...I think it's crap. But this is debate and I wouldn't want to "attack" you in any way.
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no, unschooling is NOT the same as homeschooling.

unschooled kids are usually the ones that go everywhere and are into all sort of fascinating stuff, reading, learning, exploring all sides of life, different languages and cultures, etc…

We do all that in our family AND go to public schools as well...the two don't have to be exclusive.
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We do all that in our family AND go to public schools as well...the two don't have to be exclusive.
That is what I was thinking too. My kids do all of the stuff Yulia listed and go to school. School teaches them if they have question go and find an answer, whether it is in a book, internet, where ever. From what I read on unschooling it isn't a very logical option in the present world. I do not believe a child would be able to find all the answer's they are looking for and who is to say they will be able to find someone who even knows the answer's. At least with school they have more options and people to help and give opinions. Maybe that is what "unschooling" is, making your children believe your opinions and views.

Yulia-- Do you know alot of people who do this? I mean actually know them and talk with them. Are they in your little community?
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Oh, you have NO idea how wrong you are about that!

A lot of unschoolers work with well known scientists when they are around 13 and being offered scholarship when they are older by alot of very famous universities.
I'm sorry, but where do you live exactly???? Because all the colleges in America require at least a HS diploma or GED, including SAT's or ACT's and all the other required tests they give kids throughout the years in school. And MOST colleges (the good ones in particular) require two years of ACREDITED CLASSES of foreign languages. Some schools require more!! All of the things involving school. Most of them also require a certain amount of credits IN high school.

I would need very solid PROOF that these "unschooled" kids get into "very famous universities". And what scientists??? Prove this to me.

I'm not talking off of thoughts or opinions either, I have a lot of friends that are college aged and I just went through applying for colleges and finishing high school and all that myself. I know how it works. Or maybe you're thinking about the way things USED to work, I don't know HOW long ago???

And I agree with the whole idea of them never understanding responsibility or the fact that there are certain things in life that you HAVE to do. Life doesn't just go however you want and whenever you want it to, and I would never force my kids into thinking that and being oblivious to the real world.

At the very least, if I ever considered making a decision this drastic involving my child's life, I would DEFINITELY without a DOUBT make sure that I asked him first what HE wanted to do. I would tell him about regular school AND about unschool with a very biased nature. And ask him "So which one would you like to do?" At the least, that's not something you should do to a kid without them having any say in it. It's not fair.
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as far as getting into college, I can see them being able to... they can test out of things.. that is of course if they even know how to take tests. I may hav eot look into that myself
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A lot of unschoolers work with well known scientists when they are around 13 and being offered scholarship when they are older by alot of very famous universities.
I too would be interested in evidence of this.

Also, why are you citing admission into "very famous universities" as proof of educational success? Aren't universities, very famous or otherwise, part of the same "artificial school environment"? This seems like curious logic to me: part of the evidence to support avoiding formal education is acceptance into higher level formal education.

There's nothing "unschooling" about undergrad in a university. The kid will be forced to sit in class, follow an established curriculum, pass tests, and do all the other requirements of a formal education. All classes will have set requirements as will all degree programs. A student will probably not find all the classes interesting or even useful, but it is an established, formalized educational system so the student finds a niche, follows the expectations, or either fails or quits.

And what if the kid wants to be a famous scientist and not just admire one? To get into grad school, one needs a decent GRE score. Then to receive a Ph.D. in science, there is a process involving thesis writing, oral exams, classwork, etc. A doctorate student has latitude in picking a subject (assuming she can get funding and find a mentor with a lab doing the same work), but it is a formalized educational process.
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What about Music Lessons? do you also consider that a form and schooling or are they expected to figure that out on their own too (for parents who don't play an instrument).

I can show you multiple studies on the possitive effects. Improving math and cognitive skills, increasing IQ, improving socials skills...the list goes on and on.
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We waited 6 months to feed solids and we never let our Little Man CIO. When well meaning relatives questioned our choices (almost always the older generation) I would just reply:

"Medical knowledge is constantly changing and currently it's suggested to wait 6 months to feed solids to reduce the chances for allergies and obesity (both of which our son is genetically predisposed to)."

"We don't believe in CIO for babies, current medical research suggests that babies that are responded to immediately cry less and are more independent as toddlers."

Since most people are not willing to go find medical research to back up their own claims they usually just say "Oh okay, things must have changed". Though sometimes I get the "Well all I know is I gave you cereal when you were 2 weeks old and you're okay". And actually, I've had weight issues most of my life, enough said...

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