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Ari2 · 03-30-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by budnkota

I also wonder how insulin (though I'm guessing parents had no idea she was diabetic) works with certain religions... doesn't it come from pigs usually? Maybe I am wrong about that - but if not, there could be major religious implications there.

Insulin for humans used to be derived from pig or cow insulin. Bovine-based insulin hasn't been available in the US for a while, and the FDA banned the use of porcine-based insulin since February of 2006. The insulins used now are human insulin analogs, created in labs.

Kaytee · 03-30-2008, 02:40 PM

wow I have to say I don't know. I do believe in the power of God to heal, when he deems it, but to not take your seriously ill child to the doc.
I would not say it is murder, they obviously loved the child and did not want her to die, but I cna't say they should get off either

musicmom · 03-30-2008, 04:24 PM

I really have a hard time believing two parents can be that stupid. There has to be more to this story. If it were MY family I would have made a way to take the child to the ER and faced charges later.

hwnorth · 03-30-2008, 05:04 PM

I think this is one of the keys to religion...

Many people follow "blind faith". This was a medical emergency that required medical intervention .. YET.... blind faith had them believe that a mythical figure would save their daughter.

This is just one example of many as to why the depths of religion or looked down upon by so many. Faith is one thing... allowing your child to die is yet another.

Can I see giving it a couple days of "faith healing" ? Sure ... but letting your child suffer for a month ? ... Charge Them !!!

Kaytee · 03-30-2008, 05:09 PM

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This is just one example of many as to why the depths of religion or looked down upon by so many.

only 12% of the population has no religion, plus 1% that are athiest, so I don't see how you can say "so many" look down upon religion. Christianity while falling, is still the highest percentage religious group, but looking at all other religions, again only 12 percent are non believers.

of course this is not what the debate is about

hwnorth · 03-30-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaytee

only 12% of the population has no religion, plus 1% that are athiest, so I don't see how you can say "so many" look down upon religion. Christianity while falling, is still the highest percentage religious group, but looking at all other religions, again only 12 percent are non believers.

of course this is not what the debate is about

What area are these stats from ? I know in the USA there are some extremely strong religious areas. I should have specified organized religion though

Kaytee · 03-30-2008, 05:18 PM

I just pulled it of the worlds religion. I'll go get it.
I do still agree that something needs to be done about this family. But just like the crazy readical muslims, a small few give the rest a bad name

Kaytee · 03-30-2008, 05:19 PM

Heres the site, I'm sure there are many lik eit. But this one was interesting to read
Religions of the world: numbers of adherents; growth rates

Ari2 · 03-30-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaytee

I would not say it is murder, they obviously loved the child and did not want her to die, but I cna't say they should get off either

In Wisconsin (the state that this happened), "reckless homicide" is defined as causing the death of another person under circumstances that show "utter disregard for human life". The child suffered greatly for an extended period of time, and the parents refused to call for help even when the grandmother asked them to. I think they should be arrested for reckless homicide. I doubt they wanted her to die, but by not even picking up the phone to call a doctor they showed utter disregard.

I agree, Kaytee, that a parent needs to take their seriously ill child to the doctor, regardless of one's belief in the power of prayer. It is awful that these parents refused to do that.

Kaytee · 03-30-2008, 05:32 PM

its kinda scary. I mean I love my God, I feel very lucky to have him in my life. But he is not here to take care of my child. He is here to protect us, sure, but not to that extent. Prayer does not hurt, regardless of your religious beliefs, but just prayer can hurt. Sometimes God wants us to get off our butts and do the work we need to do

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