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budnkota · 03-30-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaytee

only 12% of the population has no religion, plus 1% that are athiest, so I don't see how you can say "so many" look down upon religion. Christianity while falling, is still the highest percentage religious group, but looking at all other religions, again only 12 percent are non believers.

I followed the link, and I don't buy those numbers at all. It seems more like an analysis of the Americas and European nations than the entire world. I know I've read otherwise. If I have time before my battery dies, I'll look it up...
Regardless, I think the trend here in the US is definately moving away from organized religion.

Ari2 · 03-30-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by budnkota

If you can refuse your child a transfusion or transplant for religious reasons, I would imagine that you could also refuse to seek medical care at all. I don't know how states would be able to say one thing is OK and not another... Either way, that is terribly sad.
(sorry - kind of a rambling post, couldn't organize my thoughts today)

You raise interesting questions. I'll try to reply with a toddler on my lap.

The ability of a parent to refuse life-saving transfusions for a minor child is very limited. The hospital can petition a court to intervene. The court will consider the child's, parents' and the State's interests in making a decision. The impact of the child's wishes are considered only after
an evaluation of the child's competency (which is a separate compentency standard than in many other situations). Some of the things the court will consider is prognosis with and without treatment, any possible adverse effects of the treatment, and the impact on the family. Given an analysis of all this and more, a court can order that the child be treated against the parents' wishes.

Can't type more - must wrestle with son.

budnkota · 03-31-2008, 12:09 PM

anybody know if they practiced any particular religion, or their own belief system??

HappyMomma · 03-31-2008, 12:19 PM

I do believe in religeous freedom as long as no one is being hurt.

Firstly, how could a parent sit there and watch their child suffer to death. (literally)

Also, if the Bible is the defense here then one could argue "Spare the rod and spoil the child" for beating their child.

Kaytee · 03-31-2008, 12:24 PM

I think it said they did not follow a particular sector

Amber · 03-31-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyMomma

Also, if the Bible is the defense here then one could argue "Spare the rod and spoil the child" for beating their child.

They could, but it'd be taken out of context. This means discipline, not necessarily spanking.

HappyMomma · 03-31-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber

They could, but it'd be taken out of context. This means discipline, not necessarily spanking.

I'm completely with you, but in this case I don't think that "god will take care of all" is meant as watch your child die a slow death either. I'm just saying there has to be a point where freedom ends and hurting others (especially our children) ends.

Amber · 03-31-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyMomma

I'm completely with you, but in this case I don't think that "god will take care of all" is meant as watch your child die a slow death either. I'm just saying there has to be a point where freedom ends and hurting others (especially our children) ends.

I don't believe so, either. There's a reason God created minds for us to be able to advance in medical treatment.

Lissa · 03-31-2008, 01:42 PM

I don't know if it was mentioned anywhere in this thread or in the article, but did the family have health insurance? Maybe that was an issue for them?

Kaytee · 03-31-2008, 01:44 PM

it didn't say, maybe though, still I would take my child to the ER

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