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Old 05-05-2009, 08:17 AM   #21
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There's not even a car accident recorded (that can be found) that was caused by a high driver.
Wrong.

Marijuana Raises Risk of Fatal Car Crash

French Study Shows Pot Smokers More Likely to Be Responsible for Deadly Accident

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Dec. 1, 2005 - People who drive after using marijuana are nearly twice as likely to be involved in a fatal car crash.
French researchers studied all drivers involved in fatal car crashes over a two-year period and found 7% tested positive for marijuana, including nearly 3% who tested positive for a combination of marijuana and alcohol.
Although marijuana's share of fatal crashes is much lower than those attributed to alcohol, researchers say the results show that marijuana use, even in low doses, significantly increases the risk of fatal car accidents.

More Pot, More Deaths

In the study, published in the medical journal BMJ, researchers reviewed information on 10,748 drivers who were involved in fatal car crashes and took required tests for drugs and alcohol.
Twice as many drivers involved in fatal car accidents tested positive for marijuana compared with a group of other drivers.
Researchers say about 2.5% of the fatal crashes were attributable to marijuana compared with nearly 29% attributable to alcohol.
The study also showed that drivers who tested positive for marijuana were more than three times as likely to be responsible for the fatal car crash. Researchers say the likelihood of being at fault increased as the blood concentration of marijuana increased.

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Old 05-05-2009, 08:22 AM   #22
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Zeitgeist, I am a teacher at a special school, for those 14+, guess what a lot of my students of 18+ have in common, major mental disabilities from weed, most of them have no family history of mental illnesses and none were diagnosed with any mental illnesses until quite a few years after smoking pot regularly. The older they become, the worse it seems to become as well.
If you are accustomed to working with these types of people, then you should know that people with mental illnesses have increased likelihood of abusing drugs and alcohol, and that these things cannot be blamed on but only related to these problems. There is no way for you to link problems like that back to one single thing, like pot. Also you weren't there, and you cannot prove that pot is the only thing they did, and not some other drugs or who knows what else. My boyfriend smoked pot everyday twice a day from the time he was 13 till he was probably about 17 or 18. He's an extremely functional man who goes to work full time, fixes the car, helps me clean the house, and comes home to change diapers. Do you suppose I could blame weed for him being so great? (just trying to point out how much sense that makes) Just cause weed makes you goofy while you smoke it, doesn't mean that when a mental problem shows up later that you can say "Hm, the weed must have gotten stuck in there".

When I say some people get "stupid" from it, I mean the forty year old burnouts that have been smoking everyday since they were kids and they don't have PROBLEMS, they're just... duuuuh.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:25 AM   #23
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so basically you need to use your head if you going to partake....just like alcohol only not quite as bad for you and less likely to kill you. There are plently of OTC and RX drugs that can also cause a fatal crash if you drive after taking them. Just be smart, I don't need the gov to tell me that
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:25 AM   #24
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Marijuana Raises Risk of Fatal Car Crash

French Study Shows Pot Smokers More Likely to Be Responsible for Deadly Accident
Interesting! I didn't know that. Either way, I think we all know that no one should ever drive while under the influence of ANYTHING. I wouldn't reccomend smoking a joint before taking your SAT's, either.

EDIT: I agree Fallon.
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LMAO...that's pretty funny
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The government isn't here to help people. Their first priority is to help themselves. The main reason pot is illegal is because it would be far too difficult to tax, and because of other non-health related reasons. Has nothing to do with "helping people". If they wanted to help people, they'd get rid of the stuff that's killing us off like cigarettes and alcohol.
I don't think this is exactly true. I mean There is a legal age as to when you can smoke or Drink. So if they legalize pot, then there will have to be a legal age as to when you can start smoking pot.
I think that there are a lot of underlying issues with legalizing pot. Who is going to make sure it isn't tainted? How is it going to be patrolled if pot is being sold to minors? How is it going to be mandated if someone is caught smoking pot and driving.
If people want to legalize pot then at any rate the government will still have to step in and create new laws to determine how to make it "safer" (if that is even possible).
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It's totally possible, and would create a whole lot of jobs and new taxes for all kinds of good stuff. Also it would save the gov a ton in arrests, court cases, and jail time for minor pot convictions
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LMAO...that's pretty funny
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My best friend did that and got all boogerd up with his name.

Last Name, First Name, Middle IN

He has a very long name. It took him half the test time to change his name back with all of the corrasponding dots. I was crying I was laughing so hard.

The bottom line right or wrong. Meow is correct. It is illegal and is not worth risking your job, home, family for. I dont agree with it and think it has more to do with race than anything else. But as I age I see the value of staying within the law more clearly.

I could go on and on but I have a bottle of jeager and some zanex that arent going to consume themselves.
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My best friend did that and got all boogerd up with his name.

Last Name, First Name, Middle IN

He has a very long name. It took him half the test time to change his name back with all of the corrasponding dots. I was crying I was laughing so hard.
haha, now that's very funny. I can't totally see where all those dots would trip someone up. I had a hard enough time with scantrons without using drugs
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...The study also showed that drivers who tested positive for marijuana were more than three times as likely to be responsible for the fatal car crash. Researchers say the likelihood of being at fault increased as the blood concentration of marijuana increased.
That's because they probably were driving 10mph in the fast lane and got rear-ended by a drunk driver
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