Dadu2004

There is no way on God's green Earth that anyone better EVER lay a hand on my child except for me and her mother. If anyone ever hit my child, you better believe they better be ready for a black eye.

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BentMonk

This kind of thinking is what got us in the current kid mess. Did you read the article? The only form of corporal punishment discussed was swats on the rear end with a paddle. When this was common practice in most schools across the country, I don't recall hundreds of abuse cases being brought to light. Quite the contrary, kids thought twice before misbehaving because they might get something more than a counseling session and a new behavior med.

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fallon

I think she meant what forms of misbehavior would warrent this form of punishment

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meow_173

But there inlies the problem. Paddlin was something of the past. Who's to say it won't change in this day in age?




I think the main point here, is that there is NO NEED for punishment of this extent.

What Kid mess is that exactly?

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BentMonk

I appreciate your passion and feel the same way, if the hitting was done without my consent. A swat for acting like an ass at school would hardly get such a reaction from me. The point that those of you who make these passionate posts seems to be forgetting is that the school in the article obtained permission from the parents to use corporal punishment and did not swat those from whom permission had not been obtained.

All these blindly passionate arguments are why some kids today have no respect for anyone. These kids know that there are enough people like you that will save them from any real discipline in the name of protecting them.

When these "protected" children grow into adults who have no clue how to behave as a productive member of society because every whim they've ever had has been indulged their entire life and they've never experienced any truly unpleasant consequence for any asinine behavior they choose to exhibit, and these behaviors are analyzed, rationalized, counseled and medicated, ask yourselves...which was more abusive?

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it...There is a huge difference between swatting to discipline and abuse. I hope more people remember that, soon.

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meow_173

Furthermore, you're going to tell me that if it is a parents choice to have their kids paddled in school that they are going to send home permission slips and then make a list of all the kids who are eligible to recieve this type of punishment?????

No it will never fly. Think of the mental and emotional reporcussions that will have.

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meow_173

No, the problem lies within the parenting styles of some parents. Just because i don't smack or hit my child as a form of disiccpline, doesn't mean that Luke does not and will not have respect for other people.

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BentMonk

Uh, this can and did fly for all of the twelve years I attended public school. If you got sent to the office for a transgression punishable by swats, they checked to see if you had a parental consent form on file for swats. If you did, you got swats. If you didn't, parents were called and alternative consequences were given. I know this because throughout my school career I received my fair share of swats. I didn't die as a result and my Mom certainly didn't come running to the school shouting "You abused my kid." at the top of her lungs.

The "current kid problem" I mentioned is precisely what the school in the article was experiencing. If your kid responds better to non physical discipline, great for you and your kid, but don't make the mistake of assuming that every kid is like yours or that every parent is like you.

Today's educators more than ever need to regain control of schools and classrooms. We need to help them do so, not hinder them further.

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BentMonk

There's a quote from a very famous book that sums up my position better than my own ramblings. "Spare the rod and you spoil the child."

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meow_173

And what years were those?

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