jtee

Yes, most kids break from their parents in some form or another and start to think independently at at some point. They assimilate those things from their parents that fit for them as independent adults, and reject the rest. Kids who are raise by racist parents, IMHO, are only destined to be racists if 1) they are follows by nature and follow society norms without thinking too much, or 2) Racists ideas fit well into their innate way of looking at the world that has nothing to do with their parents.

I have an uncle who is racist, and my grandparents are just the opposite, and none of other aunts/uncle are racists, so it hard to explain why he turned out that way. I just see it that some people have an innate tendency born into them to look at the world that way, and pressure from society can only do a limited amount to influence those who will, no matter what, place a lot of importance on race when it comes likes/dislikes.

ivybendorf

I applaud this throughly!!!

Obviously, I am pro-same sex marriage. Quite frankly I consider it one of my rights to marry a woman if/when I fall in love with one. If the Bible says gay marriage is wrong, what about non-Christians? What about polygamous religions? I think this should be legal, as well. Why is the Christian religion the only one that should be considered when making laws?

Honestly, I have not been in a long term relationship with a woman not because I have not found a woman to love, but because I KNEW I could never marry her. We saved ourselves both the heartache and moved on.

Why is that fair??

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Kaytee

lol I so agree

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budnkota

I can't take credit for that - got it from somebody else, but I thought it was pretty great.
I agree about the whole religion thing. I don't mean to be offensive to those who hold their religious beliefs deeply - but I am tired of my world being run by the standards that YOUR religion decrees. Some claim the bible forbids homosexuality. From what I hear, different translations of hte bible have different interpretations. Basically, it can be twisted to mean almost anything you want it to.
BUT, if that is your reason, it is only a legitimate argument if you have no graven images in your home. No pics/sculptures of Jesus on the cross, no images of saints, disciples, etc. That would also mean that these would not be a factor in your church. When's the last time you saw a church w/o a big old cross? Stainglass windows depicting scenes. Don't Catholic churches even have "stations" or something depicting a variet of these? BLASPHEMY! They themselves choose which parts of the bible to ignore and obey!
You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
Gosh - guess my fish decorations are banned. My turles and whales and dolphins too.
None of you have ever worked on the Sabbath, correct? Never been coveted thy neighbors property (if that weren't the c)ase, we'd have a lot fewer people trying to keep up with the Jones's
As somebody else mentioned (or maybe that was a different forum? Lotsa time on my hands this weekend) don't forget the ban on pork! Hope none of you using the bible as your reasoning had a pepperoni pizza this weekend!

As far as the "but then they'll get benefits" argument - if that's your reasoning, you'd better start fighting a whole lot of things. Adoption by affluent families (b/c if they die, the kid get social security benefits), international adoption (because they aren't from here, and they are using YOUR resources. and could get money from the system if their adoptive parents die), legal immigration (similar reasons), citizenship for the US-born children of illegal immigrants (similar)
You can't argue that they are not being treated differently and then complain that they'd be using benefits. You don't want them to have the benefits of the system, yet I assume you have no objection to them paying INTO the system at an equal rate? I'd be much more concerned with the welfare mother with 8 kids and counting than I would the homosexual couple.

Teresa

Crosses in churches are not an issue UNLESS the cross is being worshipped....same for the stainglassed windows. We worship God, not the symbols or pictures.

I don't work on Sunday, never have. It's a time for reading and meditating on God, and being with my family.

The Jewish food restrictions do not apply to Christians..God told us in the New Testament that ALL foods are now clean...that it is what comes from a man's heart that makes him unclean, not the food he puts into his mouth.

Don't want to turn this into a religious debate/discussion.....just wanted to explain the facts.

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Kaytee

great post, and besides the old testiment doesn't say that polygomy is fine but some of the people God Loved most had many wives

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Suzanne84

I think it's coz traditional is man and woman and thats my main idea
but I totally dont mind if two women or two men want 2 get married, well civil partnership (thats wha it is over here)
they had 2 hide in past, but i think its good that they can declare their love

i dont agree with more than 2 ppl in a marriage though, i think just a couple is a marriage and head of a family

Good Wolf

I always get a kick out of seeing people try to split hairs when defining the word homosexual.

homosexual
adjective1. sexually attracted to members of your own sex [ant: bisexual, heterosexual]
noun1. someone who practices homosexuality; having a sexual attraction to persons of the same sex

This means that if you attracted to females and you are a female you are in fact a homosexual. If you are attracted to men and you are a man you are in fact a homosexual.

If you have sexual relations or sexual contact with someone of the same sex you are in fact a homosexual. Just because you also like the opposite sex it doesn't mean you are not a homosexual.

I do not find men sexually attractive there fore I am not a homosexual.

There is no such as being 'curious' or 'a little homosexual'. I see people on Craig's List say they aren't gay just because they let a guy go down on them, or just because they made out with a guy and liked it. Give me a break!

You shouldn't be ashamed of the way your wired, and if you insist on being ashamed then at least quit being in denial. It is what it is. You can call a gorilla a monkey all day long if you want to but it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day it is still a gorilla.

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