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05-16-2008, 06:47 PM
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Children: 1 3-year-old boy | Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jgomez65 To all of you who agree with the same sex marriage, whould you also agree with poligamy, communal marriage, or any other type of arragment? |
In many ways, that's no different than is what already going on in some situations. Just doesn't have the paper making it "official." |
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05-16-2008, 09:18 PM
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| Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by budnkota what "dangerous doors" are being opened? A marriage is still a commitment between 2 people - what difference does their sex make? | But the problem is that this will lead to more than two people
If a poligamist wants to legalize their union should we stop them? Of if a group of ten people wants to be married to each other should we say no? Where do we stop? |
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05-16-2008, 09:23 PM
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| Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyburning This is a really self centered, egotistical way of thinking. "Can you imagine..." Can I imagine what? Treating others like human beings? Giving them the same rights I have? Straight people are no better and NO more worthy of these benefits. What I have trouble imagining is why same sex couples are NOT allowed these benefits?  | That is something else that upsets me about the gay movement. They compared their situation to the civil right movement and IT IS NOT THE SAME.
They are the one who separate themselve from the rest of the community. Why do they have "pride" parades and all that stuff? You don't see straight people celebrating being straight! They are the one who wants to be different and celebrate that difference!, yet on the other hand they want to be like the rest of the people. You can't have both. If you want to be treated equal, then start behaving like the rest of everybody. |
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05-16-2008, 09:52 PM
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Children: 1 3-year-old boy | Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jgomez65 That is something else that upsets me about the gay movement. They compared their situation to the civil right movement and IT IS NOT THE SAME.
They are the one who separate themselve from the rest of the community. Why do they have "pride" parades and all that stuff? You don't see straight people celebrating being straight! They are the one who wants to be different and celebrate that difference!, yet on the other hand they want to be like the rest of the people. You can't have both. If you want to be treated equal, then start behaving like the rest of everybody. | I'm sorry, but to me, that is just ridiculous.
Guess the Irish better stop having their St Pat's Day Parades! Guess since they have those, it must mean they have a desire to be treated differently - as they were in the US in not-too-distant history
There was a CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT because people were NOT being treated the same. They were making their voices heard because of the intolerance and injustice they faced. It is no different.
Gays probably wouldn't be holding parades if they didn't feel like they had to be vocal about their position and desire for rights. Just as you don't see a whole lot of black groups marching regularly anymore. Parades are a way of getting a message out. |
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05-16-2008, 10:31 PM
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Children: 1 boy, Nolan Kai | Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jgomez65 They are the one who wants to be different and celebrate that difference!, yet on the other hand they want to be like the rest of the people. You can't have both. If you want to be treated equal, then start behaving like the rest of everybody. |
First of all, I don't think the majority of homosexuals CHOOSE to be that way. No one CHOOSES to be ridiculed and demeaned.
Second of all, I guess I ought to start treating people with diseases, disabilities, and learning disorders (who BTW, have walks, parades, and public fundraisers all the time) like inferior people since they aren't like the "rest" of us. Have a little compassion. No one LIKES being treating like crap. 
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05-17-2008, 12:34 AM
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Children: Son-8 yrs old, 2 Daughters- 7 and 4 yrs old | Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Budnkota and Skyburning, very well said. Thank you.
Personally I am for Gay Marriages. I think they should be allowed to marry just as I am allowed to marry.
I don't want my country to be known as "The Land of Opportunity, if you are like everyone else"  Doesn't seem to cool to me.
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05-17-2008, 12:44 AM
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| Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by budnkota I'm sorry, but to me, that is just ridiculous.
Guess the Irish better stop having their St Pat's Day Parades! Guess since they have those, it must mean they have a desire to be treated differently - as they were in the US in not-too-distant history
There was a CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT because people were NOT being treated the same. They were making their voices heard because of the intolerance and injustice they faced. It is no different.
Gays probably wouldn't be holding parades if they didn't feel like they had to be vocal about their position and desire for rights. Just as you don't see a whole lot of black groups marching regularly anymore. Parades are a way of getting a message out. | You are confusing cultural/ethnicity with sexual preference. What Irish, Hispanics and any other etnich group celebrate is their culture, NOT WHO THEY SLEEP WITH!!!. Two completely different things.
What message are they getting out? That they are gay? Who cares? I am straight and I don't anounce it to the world. I don't give a s***t who you sleep with, and I don't want to know, so don't force me to see something I don't care to see.
Regarding the Civil Rights Movement , I haven't seen a gay person yet being denied the right to eat at a restaurant, or being sent to the back of the bus. As a matter of fact those rights already protect each one of us, not matter who your sexual orientation is. Sorry, no way it is the same thing.
Let me tell you something. I had a really good friend of mine who was gay. A very wise man who unfortunately died of aids about 10 years ago. One of the things he told me was that part of the reason gay people were not acepted more among straight people was because for many of them, their life revolved around being gay.
On his funeral there were plenty of gay and straight people, and you know what? Everybody talked about what a good person he was, and how much he loved life and all the good things he did. Nobody even mentioned his sexuality, because for him it didn't matter! So for us, his friends, it didn't matter either.
Every time I see one of those parades, or someone talking on TV about being gay, and how big of a deal it is to come out of the closet, it reminds me of his words.
You are gay? Great, have fun in your bedroom and move on |
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05-17-2008, 12:48 AM
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| Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jgomez65 They are the one who separate themselve from the rest of the community. Why do they have "pride" parades and all that stuff? You don't see straight people celebrating being straight! | Your right ... ban Christmas, not everyone is Christian ... and every other holiday that doesnt have a national following
WAIT... we need to legalize catholic priests sodomizing young boys !! Quote:
Originally Posted by jgomez65 We are forgetting about something else. It would cost tax payers millions of dollars.
Think about this, if they are legally married, they can apply for benefits for their spouses.That includes dissability, retirenment, and everything else.) | WOW... reminds me of a classic movie ... BURNING MISSISSIPPI Quote:
Originally Posted by budnkota 10 reasons why Gay marriage is wrong: | BEAUTIFUL.. CHEERS Quote:
Originally Posted by jgomez65 If a poligamist wants to legalize their union should we stop them? Of if a group of ten people wants to be married to each other should we say no? Where do we stop? | Free Country ... isnt that it? Oh wait, free country unless dictated by one persons religion. Quote:
Originally Posted by jgomez65 To all of you who agree with the same sex marriage, whould you also agree with poligamy, communal marriage, or any other type of arragment? | could you explain to us your experience or field of expertise in this? Or is it simply because you saw a show one time?
Interesting though the amount of "straights", with little to no knowledge or understanding of anything to do with life outside their realm... they are saying its "so bad" .. yet people who have been RAISED in the various lifestyles saying .."wait...Ive lived it and its not bad ... Im "normal" ...
The amount of narrow mindedness and religion based thinking and decisions around here astound me. I dont know if its a reflection of the areas or what it is exactly ... but wow.
For two countries so close together... we sure are miles apart
"... Well I'm frickin' sick and tired
Of turning on the news
And seeing the religious right's
Ungodly fight to take our right to choose
When to bear our children
Who to love and how
Education and protection
If we're just practicing for now
So dubya look obey a book
If that's what works for you
But I don't tell you how to pray
So don't tell me how to screw..." |
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05-17-2008, 12:53 AM
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| Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyburning First of all, I don't think the majority of homosexuals CHOOSE to be that way. No one CHOOSES to be ridiculed and demeaned.
Second of all, I guess I ought to start treating people with diseases, disabilities, and learning disorders (who BTW, have walks, parades, and public fundraisers all the time) like inferior people since they aren't like the "rest" of us. Have a little compassion. No one LIKES being treating like crap.  | There is always going to be stupid people who would ridiculed, and treat minorities bad not matter what. A piece of paper would not stop or change that. |
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05-17-2008, 12:53 AM
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| Re: Same sex marriage: For or Against? | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jgomez65 .... Regarding the Civil Rights Movement , I haven't seen a gay person yet being denied the right to eat at a restaurant, or being sent to the back of the bus. As a matter of fact those rights already protect each one of us, not matter who your sexual orientation is. Sorry, no way it is the same thing. | So based on Constitution and Civil Rights ... all citizens should be given the same rights ???? Am I reading that correctly ?? |
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