Mindy

Yup, it's illegal here too, but not nearly to the same degree it once was.

And just wanted to say that whoever knows someone who shot his friend because he "waked and baked" well I'm sorry but there is a whole lot more going on with that guy than smoking a joint in the morning. That's what you call propaganda. Complete B.S. And yet people die because of drunk drivers every single day.

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Dadu2004

It's amazing to hear people say that pot has never killed one single person. Really? Are people that ignorant? In that case, smoking cigarettes has never killed one single person either. IT'S THE FREAKING CANCER THAT KILLS! If weed was so safe that it never kills anyone, it would be legal.

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Mindy

I disagree. I think that if pot is illegal so should alcohol be. And I think the only reason alcohol is not illegal is because... well, we tried that didn't we? What happened there? Riotting in the streets. People just would not take no for an answer. The bootlegging was insane. Finally they just gave up and ended prohibition.

And yes, sure you could die of lung cancer from smoking weed. But it's not common, AT ALL, and in fact if you do some research, there has never been a death from lung cancer from someone who smoked pot that didn't ALSO smoke cigarettes, so it's hard to tell.

Plus there are 4 thousand chemicals in cigarettes, and none in pot.

I'm not saying it's good for you, not saying to smoke it and definitely not saying to let your kids do it., but IMO alcohol is much much much more dangerous than pot.

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Dadu2004

There's a lot more things that should be illegal than what should be legal. We've just managed to keep pot illegal. I actually agree that we should legalize it and regulate it, but I'm not buying the whole idea that weed doesn't kill.

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Mindy

LOL, fair enough. But I will say it doesn't kill anywhere close to what alcohol and cigarettes are responsible for. I think the reason people use that line is because they are thinking like straight deaths. Meaning you can die of alcohol poisoning, or overdose on alcohol/drugs and lung cancer from cigarettes, but no one has ever died from smoking pot, meaning like you can't overdose on it.

Are you thinking like long term usage leading up to cancer? Or some different type of scenarios? Accidents or what not?

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Dadu2004

Long term usage of darn near anything will kill you. Eventually, all the steak that I eat will give me a heart attack!

The problem with weed is (like alcohol) it's mind altering. Cigarettes don't provide that sort of reaction. This isn't a debate between cigarettes and pot, but cigarettes don't provide the reaction that pot does. Now, I would agree that long term usage of cigarettes are more probably more harmful than pot...though I don't know that for sure.

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Teresa

Never touched the stuff myself, but my ex used to smoke it every day. It did SERIOUS damage to his memory, and it didn't help his asthma, either. Having seen his reactions, plus knowing that it's illegal, I would never encourage or condone smoking it for any of my children.

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Mindy

Yes I will agree, and that's why it makes more sense to compare alcohol to pot, although even then, they are so different. Yes, they are both mind altering. The only other thing I can say that I know from personal experience is that weed does not change the person you are or make you do things you wouldn't otherwise do like alcohol does. It doesnt make you less shy or lose your inhibitions or want to drive 100 miles an hour and feel like you are invincible.

I guess I just think it should be consistent, both illegal or both legal

And yes, when I say no one ever died from smoking pot, I mean no one ever died from smoking pot. There are however pot related deaths which include things like accidents (not many highway from my research though and ALL the ones I 've read about alcohol was also a factor) , suicides, poisonings with other substances, and most seem to be choking on one's own vomit while also drunk strangely enough.

I guess it just irks me that weed is seen as a devil's drug, when I think alcohol is just as bad or worse. Yes it's illegal, a huge reason not to do it. But I think it sends kids mixed messages that one mind altering substance is legal while the other is not.

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Dadu2004

This makes sense to me.

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Mindy

Also, to the OP, these are the cannabis laws for Germany. It is illegal there too, with the following criteria:

Possession of small amounts for personal use at home is not prosecuted, but the drug is confiscated. The definition of "small amount" is different in each federal state; the tolerated amount ranges from 3 grams in Brandenburg to 30 grams in Schleswig-Holstein. The sale is illegal. Possession of larger amounts is usually only punished with a fine, unless the intention to sell is evident. Cultivation of cannabis is also illegal but usually not prosecuted if the plants are not in flower and the amount of plants is rather small (the plants will be confiscated though). Only flowering female plants are treated like the possession of cannabis products; the exact amount of THC in the buds will be lab analyzed and determines the assumed amount of processed marijuana

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