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Old 05-31-2008, 07:25 AM   #1
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Exclamation Circumcision and its consequences.

Teen boys puberty forum (http://forums.govteen.com/forumdisplay.php?f=111 ) and sure enough there is a foreskin restoration sticky. Poor guys...they have to work long and hard to at least partially correct this permanent damage…

Ask ALL Foreskin Restoration Questions HERE
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PS. while you definitely can read, please do not post on the teen forum. This forum is for teenager boys ONLY.

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Penn and Teller video called “Circumcision Bullshit”. This video is funny and therefore, takes a lot of tension off the subject while saying what needs to be said. It also explains and SHOWS non-surgical foreskin restoration. I highly recommend to take a look at this video. WARNING: don't watch around the kids as the video contains plenty of bad words and "dirty" jokes.

Yahoo Video: http://tinyurl.com/23kcyc
Google Video: http://tinyurl.com/2hhud3

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Circumcision started in North America in the Puritan 1870s as a cure for masturbation (yes, you read it right! masturbation was considered to be evil and sinful and was blamed for all sort of illnesses including blindness, paralysis and mental retardation) http://www.cirp.org/library/history/ , http://www.noharmm.org/docswords.htm , http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/shorthis.htm
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As late as the 1970's medical books were claiming that desensitizing the boy was good medicine as well as good morality. The idea of that, touted openly by medical scholarship with notable pride, was carefully tucked away when the sexual revolution permitted sexual pleasure.


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The pain during circumcision is truly agonizing.
Do you know how they circumcise newborns? First, because the foreskin is attached to the glans exactly like the fingernail is attached to the finger, they have to rip open those adhesions. They force a blunt probe under the foreskin and run it all around. Think about how that would feel under your fingernails and add on it that foreskin is the most sensitive part of the body. Then they slice open the foreskin and peel it away from the glans. Then they put a clamp on and crush the foreskin to halt the worst of the bleeding. Then they take a scalpel and slice the foreskin off. Oh, and by the way, did you know that over 85% of neonatal circumcisions in the US are still being preformed without any/adequate anesthesia?

If one wants to put their baby through this nightmare, they at least must have guts to see how the procedure is being done. As you can see on this video, the doctor claims that he uses anesthesia…well, make sure your speakers are on! (warning: graphic)

There has been actually a study that was stopped before being completed due to too much trauma to babies http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9712/23/circumcision.anesthetic/ .

MRI of the brain before and after circumcision shows irreversible damage: http://www.stopinfantcircumcision.org/BrainVisualizationArticle.htm


Lucky babies would pass out being unable to coop with such intense pain; not lucky ones will not and will go through the whole agony all the way.

There has been also a study that proved that intact boys and girls have higher thresholds of pain than circumcised boys. It was published in the Lancet (British medical journal) in 1997.

While permanent psychological impact of circumcision is still mostly unknown, it’s logical to assume that just like any extremely painful and traumatic event—even if forgotten—it can lead to a permanent emotional/psychological scar/damage.

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Circ removes the most sensitive parts of the penis (Ridged band and often it also removes Frenulum).

Furthermore, no longer protected by the foreskin glans develop few more layers of skin in order to protect sensitive nerve endings. This process called keratinization which leads to further sensitivity loss.

Please take a look at a recent sensitivity study published in the BJU International (British Journal of Urology) in April 2007.

This study was the first time that the intact and circumcised penis were thoroughly, systematically and scientifically tested for sensitivity. The testing method was monofilament testing, the same method used in assessing peripheral neuropathy, such as lack of feeling in the feet of diabetics. The resulting measurements of sensitivity are quantifiable and reproducible. The study was submitted for peer review before being approved for publication.

The study's objective: to map the fine-touch pressure thresholds of the adult penis in circumcised and uncircumcised men, and to compare the two populations.

The conclusion, from the abstract: The glans of the circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the uncircumcised penis. The transitional region from the external to the internal prepuce is the most sensitive region of the uncircumcised penis and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis. Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis.

Full text of the study (pdf), http://www.icgi.org/touch-test/touch-test-article.pdf
Graphs illustrating the comparison findingshttp://www.icgi.org/touch-test/

3. Moisturizing the glans is another important function of foreskin. Once removed, the skin of glans gets dry which most of the time leads to inability to have sex/masturbation without an artificial lubricant. On the other hand intact men do not need it at all. Foreskin slides up and down the shaft of the penis providing an easy and smooth penetration, lubrication and additional pleasure for both partners.


While this video is for artificial foreskin (and I really have mixed feelings about the product) this video is AWESOME as far as showing the process of keratinization and loss of sensitivity by using computer graphic, explaining the process in a very powerful and easy-to-understand way. To view the video, please click on the link and then go to “View The SenSlip Videohttp://www.senslip.com/Photo_of_the_SenSlip_fitted.php .

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THE NEW ZEALAND MEDICAL JOURNAL
“Effects of male circumcision on female arousal and orgasm” http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/bensley1/

TOP 10 ways Circumcised SEX Harms women
http://www.sexasnatureintendedit.com/10F/1hook_scrapes.html

This website shows very clear (it explains AND also it shows very graphic videos) about how sex with circumcised penis is different than with an intact one. (there are ALOT of videos almost on every page that explains everything in very powerful and easy way).

Male Circumcision Reduces Female Pleasure
http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/60750.html

The effect of male circumcision on the sexual enjoyment of the female partner
http://www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/ohara/

The Nurses of St. Vincent: Saying "No" to Circumcision (short version)

Nurses for the Rights of the Child http://nurses.cirp.org


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Jewish and circumcision.

Up until Greece, circumcision (called milah) was nicking the tip of the foreskin with a knife. The foreskin was still intact, however. About two thousand years ago, for fear of assimilation with the Greeks, the rabbinate declared that brit milah was not enough. Brit periah was now the standard, the laying bare of the glans. This is NOT what Abraham did. This is NOT biblically mandated. AND the fact remains, any child born to a Jewish woman is Jewish, despite the status of his foreskin. If, for some reason, you cannot perform the procedure, a drop of blood from the penis will suffice.
Evidently there are plenty of Jewish people these days that refuse to perform MGM (male genital mutilation) on their baby boys even for religious reasons:

Jewish Circumcision Resource Center (a great website with the information linked to studies/references) http://jewishcircumcision.org/spectator.htm
http://www.jewishcircumcision.org/


This organization works in Israel http://www.kahal.org/

Jews against circumcision website (quote: Even Rabbi Maimonides acknowledged that circumcision is a way to curb masturbation) http://www.jewsagainstcircumcision.com/

Brit shalom (Hebrew covenant of peace) is a naming ceremony for Jewish boys that is intended to replace the traditional brit milah ceremony as an initiative by some, more liberal, Jews who do not approve of circumcision of boys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_shalom
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As reported at circumstitions, a study appearing in the March 2008 issue of the Journal of Paediatrics found that overall, up to age 32 years, the incidence rates for all STIs were not statistically significantly different - 23.4 and 24.4 per 1000 person-years for the uncircumcised and circumcised men, respectively.

CONCLUSIONS: These findings are consistent with recent population-based cross-sectional studies in developed countries [such as the Australian Study (International Journal of STD & AIDS August 1, 2006; 17(8): 547-54.) of about 10,000 men and the British Study (STI 2003 Volume 79: Pages 499-500, December 2003) of approximately 2,000 men and unlike the widely publicized Fergusson study] which found that early childhood circumcision does not markedly reduce the risk of the common STIs in the general population in such countries.
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CONCLUSIONS: These findings are consistent with recent population-based cross-sectional studies in developed countries, which found that early childhood circumcision does not markedly reduce the risk of the common STIs in the general population in such countries.

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Dr Tom Wiswell, a respected authority in the USA was a strong opponent, but then switched camps as a result of his own research findings and the findings of others. This is what he has to say: "As a pediatrician and neonatologist, I am a child advocate and try to do what is best for children. For many years I was an outspoken opponent of circumcision ... I have gradually changed my opinion" [632, 635]. This ability to keep an open mind on the issue and to make a sound judgement on the balance of all available information is to his credit ... he did change his mind!
Wiswell looked at the complication rates of having or not having circumcision performed in a study of 136,000 boys born in US army hospitals between 1980 and 1985. 100,000 were circumcised and 193 (0.19%) had complications, mostly minor, with no deaths, but of the 36,000 who were not circumcised the problems were more than ten-times higher and there were 2 deaths [636].
A study by others found that of the 11,000 circumcisions performed at New York's Sloane Hospital in 1989, only 6 led to complications, none of which were fatal [482]. An early survey saw only one death amongst 566,483 baby boys circumcised in New York between 1939 and 1951 [390].
There are no deaths today from medical circumcisions in developed countries.
Very similar to the study by Wiswell above, it was found that of 354,297 infants born in Washington State from 1987-96, only 0.20% had a complication arising from their circumcision, i.e., 1 in every 476 circumcisions [114]. Most of these ‘complications’ were minor and readily treated. It was concluded that 6 urinary tract infections could be prevented for every circumcision complication, and 2 complications can be expected for every penile cancer prevented [114].
Problems involving the penis are encountered relatively frequently in pediatric practice [324]. A retrospective study of boys aged 4 months to 12 years found uncircumcised boys exhibited significantly greater frequency of penile problems (14% vs 6%; P < 0.001) and medical visits for penile problems (10% vs 5%; P < 0.05) compared with those who were circumcised.
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As a prelude to this, one needs to first understand the anatomy. The foreskin is composed of an outer layer that is keratinized (as is skin generally), and an inner lining that is a mucosal surface. The inner lining thus resembles other mucosal epithelia such as constitute the cervix, nasal passages and rectum. It had been suggested that the foreskin protected the glans from drying out and becoming keratinized. However, histological examination has shown the same amount of keratin in the skin of the head of the penis irrespective of circumcision status [556].
The inner layer of the foreskin lines a ‘preputial sac’, which becomes a repository for shed cells, secretions, and urinary residue that accumulates [122, 426]. It is also a hospitable environment for the growth of bacteria and other microorganisms.
During an erection the head and shaft of the penis extend so that the inner layer becomes exteriorized along the distal half of the shaft. This exposes it to infectious agents during sexual intercourse.
It has been speculated that the foreskin is a source of secretions, pheromones, etc, but given the dubious authorship of these reports and the absence of any research support, such suggestions should be regarded as fanciful. In fact, for references that cite evidence to the contrary see [603a].
It has been suggested [93] that the increased risk of infection in the uncircumcised may be a consequence of the following:
• The foreskin presents the penis with a larger surface area.
• The moist inner lining of the foreskin represents a thinner epidermal barrier than the more cornified outer surface of the foreskin and the rest of the penis, including the glans of both a circumcised and an uncircumcised penis, which have been found to have the same amount of keratin (i.e., similar skin thickness and protection from invasion of microorganisms) [556]. This means that the inner lining is a potential entry point into the body for viruses and bacteria. (A photograph of a histological section illustrates this later, in the section on the AIDS virus.)
• The presence of a prepuce is likely to result in greater microtrauma during sexual intercourse, thereby permitting an entry point into the bloodstream for infectious agents.
• The warm, moist mucosal environment under the foreskin favours growth of micro-organisms (discussed in detail later). The preputial sac has even been referred to by Dr Gerald Weiss, an American surgeon, as a 'cesspool for infection' [608], as its unfortunate anatomy wrapped around the end of the penis results in the accumulation of secretions, excretions (urine), dead cells and growths of bacteria as referred to above. Parents are told not to retract the foreskin of male infants, which makes cleaning difficult. Even if optimal cleansing is performed there is no evidence that it confers protection [639, 640]. Rather, the foreskin tends to trap and transmit micro-organisms, both to the man himself, and his sexual partners.
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Circumcision Pain and Memory

No adverse psychological aftermath has been demonstrated [493]. A longitudinal study in the UK, beginning in 1946, involving over 5,000 individuals followed from birth to age 27 found no difference in developmental and behavioural indices between circumcised and uncircumcised males [94].
Long-term psychological, emotional, and sexual impediments from circumcision are anecdotal [380, 626] and can be discounted. It must be recognized that there are many painful experiences encountered by the child before, during and after birth [361]. Circumcision, if performed without anaesthetic is one of these.
Cortisol levels, heart rate and respiration have registered an increase during and shortly after the procedure [558, 559], indicating that the baby is not unaware of having had something painful done in instances when circumcision has been carried out without anesthesia. It is therefore generally advised that local anesthetic be used for all circumcisions on infants (more on anesthesia later).
The response is variable and, even without anesthetic, some babies show no signs of distress at all. Most do, however, and this may be contributed by the restraining procedure, not just the surgery itself.
In the past doctors and parents had to weigh up the need to inflict this short-term pain in the context of a lifetime of gain from prevention or reduction of subsequent problems. Use of anesthetic for circumcision makes it either relatively or absolutely pain-free.


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