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Old 05-16-2008, 08:29 AM   #101
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its not a punishment. If he is acting up because he is so tired, then he is tired. Thats all. I would think she would try to put him to bed before he acts up though
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On more that one occasion I've asked Dd "Is it time to go to bed? Your behavior is telling me that you are too tired right now."

I've made her aware that when she's tired she gets cranky, so she understands that if I put her to bed early because of being to tired... it's not a punishment, but a solution. (well as much as a 4 year old can. LOL) sigh
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:18 AM   #103
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Me neither or sending them to their room when they were that little because it would have made bed time horrible.
I agreed with Fooser.
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Me neither or sending them to their room when they were that little because it would have made bed time horrible.
I agreed with Fooser.

I could send my kid to bed early, but he'd just play in bed...plus that takes away parent/kid bonding time. I didn't think that was fair.

Stay strong Lissa!

Only another few months or a year before you can really train him with consequences...then it gets super easy.

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Only another few months or a year before you can really train him with consequences...then it gets super easy.
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On more that one occasion I've asked Dd "Is it time to go to bed? Your behavior is telling me that you are too tired right now."

I've made her aware that when she's tired she gets cranky, so she understands that if I put her to bed early because of being to tired... it's not a punishment, but a solution. (well as much as a 4 year old can. LOL) sigh
that's how I handle it with my daughter to...she's almost six and if she gets whinny or starts acting out the first thing I do is ask her if she needs to go lay down. Of course she says no so then I let her know that mommies know that when big girls behave this way it's usually because they are very tired and or something is wrong. I give a chance to tell me if something has happended that is making her feel like acting out and if there's nothing wrong I let her know that continuing to behave this way will result in bedtime or nap time because I feel she is too sleepy to act like a big girl should, and as her mommy I know what's best for her right now
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I really, really don't want to start time outs. Especially at bed time. I know that I should have no tolerance. I keep making up excuses for him. I just don't want to hear him scream on the time out mat.
If you don't want to do time-outs, you don't have to. There are alternatives, especially at this age. I think we pretty much have zero tolerance for a lot of bad behavior (biting, throwing things, etc), but we don't use time-outs at this point. Time-outs would be overkill for my son, who usually just needs a gentle correction and would start a giant, pointless battle with my daughter. She learns fine with taking away toys that are being thrown, being separated from her brother if she can't treat him well, having her food or cup temporarily taken away if she throws them, etc. All of these things really gets to her, and she has learned to avoid these consequences by behaving about 90% of the time. But she is a kid who always is looking to get into a contest of wills. I have to be careful to find a way to stop a behavior without allowing her to turn it into a battle or a game as she will never be able to win (sorry, kid!). She just has to stop.

Also, if he seems overly tired, I'd put him to bed as long as it is close to his bedtime and not hours before. But you do need to be consistent, even when he's tired, as hard as it is.
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timeouts never worked for DD at all...it was a huge drawn out battle. I handled her as a toddler the way Ari discribes handling her daughter and it worked just fine for us
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