ya know, you do the best with what you have, sure I've spanked, I've smacked a couple of hands, but the number of times I can count on probably one maybe two hands and that's sum total with two kids, and that doesn't make my actions "right." but you do it our of concern, you do it to get an immediate reaction when needed, and if you find yourself doing it because "you can" or it makes you feel better, then it's time to re-examine. About any time I can think of that I've resorted to a real yell, or a slap or spank, I've followed up with explanation about being concerned and needing them to stop immediately, that I love them and need them to be safe. I've apologized to my older for yelling when it hasn't been appropriate and we talk about treating people like you want to be treated and that we should treat family like we do strangers, with those same careful manners. I think it's serves well to discuss the fallability of parents, but also the fact that the buck stops with us....I think they can respect a parent who's not perfect but is straight up with them...and I've found myself yelling a lot less....