"...because he thought it was funny."...
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yeah, prob a li'l bit...but I don't see anything wrong with having to pass a test, about the same complexity of a written driver's license test, before you're allowed to take a baby home from the hospital.GracieK said:I suppose it would be too Orwellian to ask for psychological testing before allowing people to be parents...
I'm glad as any that the kids will be all right in the end, but this kind of a reaction...
I am entirely against the idea of any kind of government mandated prerequisites for having children. While no one is born with a gun or a car, every normal child is born with a reproductive system. Having children is not a privilige that the government can grant, it's an innate part of every person's biology and it's each person's right to reproduce as they see fit.
Parents are given every opportunity to learn these days. The hospital we went to offered free classes on childbirth, child rearing, breast feeding, safety in the home. Fire stations will show you how to properly install a car seat. The internet is FULL of information for any parent to find and learn.
Not a single one of these classes, web-sites, or institiutions would - until this moron came along - sit parents-to-be down to explain that putting shock collars on their children is a bad idea no matter how funny they think it is.
It's one of those outlier situations that wouldn't have been covered. No class, test, or evaluation will be able to predict when this, or any of a host of other doofuses will short circuit and do something dumb.
I am entirely against the idea of any kind of government mandated prerequisites for having children. While no one is born with a gun or a car, every normal child is born with a reproductive system. Having children is not a privilige that the government can grant, it's an innate part of every person's biology and it's each person's right to reproduce as they see fit.
Parents are given every opportunity to learn these days. The hospital we went to offered free classes on childbirth, child rearing, breast feeding, safety in the home. Fire stations will show you how to properly install a car seat. The internet is FULL of information for any parent to find and learn.
Not a single one of these classes, web-sites, or institiutions would - until this moron came along - sit parents-to-be down to explain that putting shock collars on their children is a bad idea no matter how funny they think it is.
It's one of those outlier situations that wouldn't have been covered. No class, test, or evaluation will be able to predict when this, or any of a host of other doofuses will short circuit and do something dumb.
well said, and my endorsement of certification testing was made in part in gest andin part out of frustration.zeitgeist said:
You brought this back (very eloquently) to the basic notion that no good intentions, no matter how intrusive or heavy handed, are going to prevent truly stupid (or evil) people from doing truly stupid (or evil) things.
Thanks.
I think what he meant was this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Sanchez_(TV_series) which makes much more sense in the context or the thread and is not an inappropriate post.zeitgeist said:
(but now we all know just a little bit more about Fallon and zeitgeist's sphere of knowledge...
)Zeit - we're talking about a psychological test, not a test of knowelege. Not "how smart are you" but "how mentally stable are you". You misunderstood.
Either way, we were mostly joking and I figured that was pretty obvious.
Clearly its always going to be everyone's given right as a human being to reproduce, I just sometimes find that fact somewhat unfortunate, because I actually care about the well being of the children being born to these people.
Either way, we were mostly joking and I figured that was pretty obvious.
Clearly its always going to be everyone's given right as a human being to reproduce, I just sometimes find that fact somewhat unfortunate, because I actually care about the well being of the children being born to these people.
Xero said:Clearly its always going to be everyone's given right as a human being to reproduce, I just sometimes find that fact somewhat unfortunate, because I actually care about the well being of the children being born to these people.
Yeah, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. In this case, though, "don't" damns fewer people. Lesser of two evils.
I dont see a problem.
"I SAID PUT THE CHEESE CURLS DOWN zzzzzST" :skeptical:
"DADDYS CELL PHONE DOESNT BELONG IN THE TOILET zzzzST":skeptical:
"MY SANDLES ARE NOT FOR TUG OF WAR WITH THE DOG zzzzST, zzzzST"
I AM googling to see if I can find one that fits DW
"YOU MOWED OVER THE GARDEN HOSE zzzzzZZstZZZZzzST(<I>sparks flying, jumper cables hooked to the car battery</I>) :wink:
Take it easy I am mostly kidding
"I SAID PUT THE CHEESE CURLS DOWN zzzzzST" :skeptical:
"DADDYS CELL PHONE DOESNT BELONG IN THE TOILET zzzzST":skeptical:
"MY SANDLES ARE NOT FOR TUG OF WAR WITH THE DOG zzzzST, zzzzST"
I AM googling to see if I can find one that fits DW
"YOU MOWED OVER THE GARDEN HOSE zzzzzZZstZZZZzzST(<I>sparks flying, jumper cables hooked to the car battery</I>) :wink:
Take it easy I am mostly kidding