Boy - AGE 13 a DAD!...

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<r><B><s></s><URL url="</s>Dad at 13 | Boy Alfie Patten, 13, becomes father of baby girl Maisie with girlfriend Chantelle Steadman, 15 | The Sun |News<e></e></URL><e></e></B><br/>
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<B><s></s>BOY dad Alfie Patten yesterday admitted he does not know how much nappies cost — but said: “I think it’s a lot.” <e></e></B><br/>
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Baby-faced Alfie, who is 13 but looks more like eight, became a father four days ago when his girlfriend Chantelle Steadman gave birth to 7lb 3oz Maisie Roxanne. <br/>
He told how he and Chantelle, 15, decided against an abortion after discovering she was pregnant. <br/>
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The shy lad, whose voice has not yet broken, said: “I thought it would be good to have a baby. <br/>
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&lt;I&gt;&lt;s&gt;<I>&lt;/s&gt;“I didn’t think about how we would afford it. I don’t really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me £10.”&lt;e&gt;</I>&lt;/e&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
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Alfie, who is just 4ft tall, added: “When my mum found out, I thought I was going to get in trouble. We wanted to have the baby but were worried how people would react. &lt;br/&gt;
“I didn’t know what it would be like to be a dad. I will be good, though, and care for it.” &lt;br/&gt;
Alfie's story, broken exclusively by The Sun today has sparked a huge political storm with Tory leader David Cameron saying: "When I saw these pictures this morning, I just thought how worrying that in Britain today children are having children. &lt;br/&gt;
"I hope that somehow these children grow up into responsible parents but the truth is parenthood is just not something they should be thinking about right now." &lt;br/&gt;
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PM Gordon Brown refused to comment directly on the story but said it was important that the Government did all it could to prevent teenage pregnancies. &lt;br/&gt;
Alfie’s dad Dennis yesterday told how the lad does not really understand the enormity of his situation — but seemed desperate to be a devoted and responsible father. &lt;br/&gt;
He wanted to be the first to hold Maisie after the hospital birth. He tenderly kisses the baby and gives her a bottle. &lt;br/&gt;
And Dennis, 45, said: “He could have shrugged his shoulders and sat at home on his Playstation. But he has been at the hospital every day.” &lt;br/&gt;
&lt;I&gt;&lt;s&gt;<I>&lt;/s&gt;Maisie was conceived after Chantelle and Alfie — just 12 at the time — had a single night of unprotected sex.&lt;e&gt;</I>&lt;/e&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
They found out about the baby when Chantelle was 12 weeks pregnant. &lt;br/&gt;
But they kept it a secret until six weeks later when Chantelle’s mum Penny, 38, became suspicious about her weight gain and confronted her. &lt;br/&gt;
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After that Alfie’s family told only those closest to them for fear he would be “demonised” at school. &lt;br/&gt;
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Chantelle gave birth to Maisie on Monday night after a five-hour labour at Eastbourne Hospital, East Sussex. &lt;br/&gt;
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Last night she told The Sun: “I’m tired after the birth. I was nervous after going into labour but otherwise I was quite excited.” &lt;br/&gt;
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Chantelle told how she discovered she was expecting after going to her GP with “really bad” stomach pains. She said: “Me and Alfie went. The doctor asked me whether we had sex. I said yes and he said I should do a pregnancy test. He did the test and said I was pregnant. I started crying and didn’t know what to do. &lt;br/&gt;
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“He said I should tell my mum but I was too scared. &lt;br/&gt;
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&lt;I&gt;&lt;s&gt;<I>&lt;/s&gt;“We didn’t think we would need help from our parents. You don’t really think about that when you find out you are pregnant. You just think your parents will kill you.”&lt;e&gt;</I>&lt;/e&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
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But Penny figured out what was going on after buying Chantelle a T-shirt which revealed her swelling tum. &lt;br/&gt;
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Chantelle admitted she and Alfie — who are both being supported by their parents — would be accused of being grossly irresponsible. She said: “We know we made a mistake but I wouldn’t change it now. We will be good loving parents. &lt;br/&gt;
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“I have started a church course and I am going to do work experience helping other young mums. &lt;br/&gt;
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“I’ll be a great mum and Alfie will be a great dad.” &lt;br/&gt;
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Chantelle and Maisie were released from hospital yesterday. They are living with Penny, Chantelle’s jobless dad Steve, 43, and her five brothers in a rented council house in Eastbourne. The family live on benefits. Alfie, who lives on an estate across town with mum Nicola, 43, spends most of his time at the Steadmans’ house. &lt;br/&gt;
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He is allowed to stay overnight and even has a school uniform there so he can go straight to his classes in the morning. &lt;br/&gt;
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&lt;I&gt;&lt;s&gt;<I>&lt;/s&gt;Alfie’s dad, who is separated from Nicola, believes the lad is scared deep down.&lt;e&gt;</I>&lt;/e&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
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He said: “Everyone is telling him things and it’s going round in his head. It hasn’t really dawned on him. He hasn’t got a clue of what the baby means and can’t explain how he feels. All he knows is mum and dad will help. &lt;br/&gt;
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“When you mention money his eyes look away. And she is reliant on her mum and dad. It’s crazy. They have no idea what lies ahead.” &lt;br/&gt;
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Dennis, who works for a vehicle recovery firm, described Alfie as “a typical 13-year-old boy”. &lt;br/&gt;
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He said: “He loves computer games, boxing and Manchester United.” Dennis, who has fathered nine kids, told how he was “gobsmacked” when he discovered Alfie was to be a dad, too. &lt;br/&gt;
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He said: “When I spoke to him he started crying. He said it was the first time he’d had sex, that he didn’t know what he was doing and of the complications that could come. &lt;br/&gt;
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“I will talk to him again and it will be the birds and the bees talk. Some may say it’s too late but he needs to understand so there is not another baby.” &lt;br/&gt;
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Chantelle’s mum said: “I told her it was lovely to have the baby but I wish it was in different circumstances. We have five children already so it’s a big financial responsibility. But we are a family and will pull together and get through. &lt;br/&gt;
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&lt;I&gt;&lt;s&gt;<I>&lt;/s&gt;“She’s my daughter. I love her and she will want for nothing.”&lt;e&gt;</I>&lt;/e&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
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Last night Michaela Aston, of the anti-abortion Christian charity LIFE, said: “We commend these teenagers for their courage in bringing their child into the world. &lt;br/&gt;
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“At the same time this is symptomatic of the over-sexualisation of our youngsters and shows the policy of value-free sex education just isn’t working.” &lt;br/&gt;
Today Sussex Police and the local council's children services said they have investigated the case and pledged continued support for the young parents. &lt;br/&gt;
Britain’s youngest known father is Sean Stewart. He became a dad at 12 when the girl next door, 15-year-old Emma Webster, gave birth in Sharnbrook, Bedford, in 1998. They split six months later.&lt;/r&gt;
 

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Did you see the video? The reporter asked "What will you do financially?"

His reply: "What's 'financially?'"

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not to be mean or nothing but if ya think about it and look around in places such as the lower income areas----you'll find this sort of thing happens quite a bit even in small towns with a population of only 300. so it aint surprising at all...
 

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&lt;r&gt;&lt;QUOTE author="16th ave.;81456"&gt;&lt;s&gt;
16th ave. said:
&lt;/s&gt;not to be mean or nothing but if ya think about it and look around in places such as the lower income areas----you'll find this sort of thing happens quite a bit even in small towns with a population of only 300. so it aint surprising at all...&lt;e&gt;
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And my many-times-great grandmother in the early 1700s married and started producing kids at 13, it was a common occurrence and wasn't surprising at all.&lt;br/&gt;
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But this isn't the 18th century, and East Sussex, UK is hardly an abstinence-only bastion of TinyTown USA. &lt;br/&gt;
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We know it happens, so it's really hardly 'surprising,' but in this day and age there's no way this kind of statement should be possible:
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Didn't know what 'complications' could come? Come on, I know the kid &lt;I&gt;&lt;s&gt;<I>&lt;/s&gt;looks&lt;e&gt;</I>&lt;/e&gt;&lt;/I&gt; eight, but he's 13. He should have had this stuff explained already. If they're old enough to physically procreate, they're old enough to know what the potential results are from doing the deed.&lt;br/&gt;

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NOT the words of a person who is in any way whatsoever prepared for the challenges of being a parent, nor of whose parents have had any kind of discussion about this stuff with their kids.&lt;br/&gt;
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For heaven's sake - my daughter hasn't even been born yet and I've already been working on the mental drafts of that discussion for &lt;I&gt;&lt;s&gt;<I>&lt;/s&gt;months&lt;e&gt;</I>&lt;/e&gt;&lt;/I&gt;. My wife and I have already spoken about when that kind of discussion is to go down. Why would any parent not arm their children with that information?&lt;/r&gt;
 

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I've discussed this on another board I'm on and we came to the agreement that that baby needs to be DNA tested. The reporter said that boys voice wasn't even starting to change yet..did he have viable sperm before he hit puberty?
 

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"The development of sperm production and fertility in males is not as well documented. Sperm can be detected in the morning urine of most boys after the first year of pubertal changes (and occasionally earlier). Potential fertility is reached at about 12 years old in boys, but full fertility will not be gained until 14-16 years of age, although some go through the process faster, reaching it only 1 year later."

"Although erections and orgasm occur in prepubertal boys, they become much more common during puberty, accompanied by a markedly increased libido. Ejaculation becomes possible early in puberty. Prior to this, boys may experience dry orgasms. Emission of seminal fluid may occur due to masturbation or spontaneously during sleep (commonly termed a wet dream, and more clinically called a nocturnal emission). The ability to ejaculate is a fairly early event in puberty compared to the other characteristics. However, in parallel to the irregularity of the first few periods of a girl, for the first one or two years after a boy's first ejaculation, his seminal fluid may contain few active sperm."

"Voice change:
Under the influence of androgens, the voice box, or larynx, grows in both genders. This growth is far more prominent in boys, causing the male voice to drop and deepen, sometimes abruptly but rarely "over night", about one octave, because the longer and thicker vocal folds have a lower fundamental frequency. Voices never "break." A typical 12-year old boy's larynx is larger, even before voice change, than an adult woman's. Occasionally, voice change is accompanied by unsteadiness of vocalization in the early stages of untrained voices. Most of the voice change happens during stage 3-4 of male puberty around the time of peak growth. Full adult pitch is attained at an average age of about 15 years. However, it usually precedes the development of significant
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Source and further information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty[/URL]
 

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Skyburning said:
I've discussed this on another board I'm on and we came to the agreement that that baby needs to be DNA tested. The reporter said that boys voice wasn't even starting to change yet..did he have viable sperm before he hit puberty?
That was my first thought when I read the article as well. Something just doesn't seem right to me!!
 

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did ya see on the news that another boy is stepping up and claiming the baby is his? it was on the cnn updates this morning if anyone wants to look for it.
 

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meow_173 said:
However, in parallel to the irregularity of the first few periods of a girl, for the first one or two years after a boy's first ejaculation, his seminal fluid may contain few active sperm.
See that makes me think it's unlikely that it's his. I'll have to go check out the new CNN story.
 

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If you find it can you post the link?

I don't even know what to say to this... just wow. lol Looking at the pictures just really blows you away. o___o It's terrible, but everybody knows that.

I think a DNA test needs done too. Its funny you say that because while my BF and I were looking at this the first thing I said was "That doesn't even make sense. Does he even have pubic hair yet? Seriously!!!" Not only does it look wrong, it doesn't even look possible.

Not saying it isn't!!! Not saying I don't at all believe it could happen. Just saying it looks fishy. :p
 

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Found it -

Two other teenagers have told the News of the World that they could have fathered the child.
Both Richard Goodsell, 16, and Tyler Barker, 14, said they had slept with Chantelle at around the time she would have become pregnant, and claimed that she also had several other sexual partners.
Richard, who alleged to the paper he stayed in Chantelle's bed with the consent of her parents Penny and Steve, and without using any contraception, said he plans to demand a DNA test is carried out.


Somebody needs to test that kid right now and leave that poor 13 year old boy alone, because he's obviously not the real father. It makes interesting news, but it isn't true. How irritating.
 

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Yeah really, cause the girl looks older for her age. Its gross to think they had sex. I can't see what interests her about having sex with a kid that looks like he's in fourth grade.

But she sounds gross anyway, apparently she sleeps around pretty bad and her parents let her. And they even let some kid stay in her bed with their permission with no protection. So I guess you never know. :(