Introduction and departure....
- Thread starter Tamarindo
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Okay, goodbye. It's really not that hard to help out 5 other people, but if they are not worth your time. Then I guess it could go the other way, so we wouldn't want to waist our time.
if someone has that hard of a time with just posting of helpful advice, i can only imagine how it can be with children.
Thank you for the replies everyone.
I understand now that you are not open to assisting others who not already existing, contributing members, as there is an underlying belief that people will not give back unless coerced to doing so.
You may want to post a disclaimer that new users with serious, pressing issues, such as abuse, or post-partum, may want to go elsewhere, as they are obligated to help others before receiving such support themselves.
After all, the books must balance.
I understand now that you are not open to assisting others who not already existing, contributing members, as there is an underlying belief that people will not give back unless coerced to doing so.
You may want to post a disclaimer that new users with serious, pressing issues, such as abuse, or post-partum, may want to go elsewhere, as they are obligated to help others before receiving such support themselves.
After all, the books must balance.
Nice Xero
Good thing your issue is not cutting into the time available for you to check responses and complain about a rule designed to keep spammers and bots off of a website.
I kinda feel privileged that you hold us in such a high regard that you continue to check for replies knowing how busy your schedule must be. Not having the two minutes it would take to make a couple word responses to post.
I don't know what we were thinking. We figured you would be here sooner or later. Realizing you would not have time to read the rules or view older post and see if your issue had been already addressed. I was trying to wait by my computer as not to further delay any resolution to your problem.
Here is your disclaimer. I highlighted the necessary parts so you would not have to waste a bunch of time reading them all.
Good thing your issue is not cutting into the time available for you to check responses and complain about a rule designed to keep spammers and bots off of a website.
I kinda feel privileged that you hold us in such a high regard that you continue to check for replies knowing how busy your schedule must be. Not having the two minutes it would take to make a couple word responses to post.
I don't know what we were thinking. We figured you would be here sooner or later. Realizing you would not have time to read the rules or view older post and see if your issue had been already addressed. I was trying to wait by my computer as not to further delay any resolution to your problem.
Here is your disclaimer. I highlighted the necessary parts so you would not have to waste a bunch of time reading them all.
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Well, maybe.Tamarindo said:
Look, I don't agree with the five-post rule, mostly because it results a lot of meaningless "me too" posts on old threads from newbies, but seriously - is posting five one-liners too much to ask if you expect people to put time and effort into they can't really spare into helping you with your issues? We are not a hot-line, you know, we are an internet COMMUNITY. Its not about books balancing. The simple fact is that if everyone had your attitude of refusing to help others before they have received support, there'd be no one here to give you support. Think about it.
As an aside - I've also been noticing lately that one can easily tell if a person will stay on the forum after the conclusion of their initial thread, by looking at the quality of their first 5 posts. Those who post meaningless one-liners, or put the whole story in their intro thread, never hang around to help others. My guess is, you won't either. So really, why should we bother with people who just take what they can and leave without making an effort to return the favor?
PS: For post-partum, contact a doctor.
For abuse - if its yourself, go to a woman's shelter. If it's a child, call CPS. You'll get much better support and advice there than anywhere on the internet.
And we Mods agree also. To the point that we have been working on another system that would accomplish the same mission without all the unnecessary posting. We should be able to roll it out soon.singledad said:
Its there to keep the bots and spammers away. Without something we are inundated with stuff that has COMPLETELY FILLED THE SERVER at times causing the site to go down.
At this point it is a necessary evil.
Really its a bigger pain for us modding than you know (the 5 post rule). Causing a lot of old thread bumping and a minimum of 6 posts to delete when we do find a spammer.
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Tamarindo
Sorry to hear your dismay about the site. I hope you stick around and give us another chance as there are many people on this site who do care about how you feel and are really caring.
I don't agree with the rule either but, You don't have to make those 5 post 'helping posts' expecially if your not in the right frame of mind to give advice, even a simple response to someone else's post will do.
Hope your not suffering from post partum or any other type of depression but if you are than write a few more posts and join us. Just take what you need from the posters, and ignore what you don't. Sometimes that's what works best.
Good luck to you.
Sorry to hear your dismay about the site. I hope you stick around and give us another chance as there are many people on this site who do care about how you feel and are really caring.
I don't agree with the rule either but, You don't have to make those 5 post 'helping posts' expecially if your not in the right frame of mind to give advice, even a simple response to someone else's post will do.
Hope your not suffering from post partum or any other type of depression but if you are than write a few more posts and join us. Just take what you need from the posters, and ignore what you don't. Sometimes that's what works best.
Good luck to you.
As a former mod, I highly agree with this. You have no clue how much of a pain in the @$$ it is sometimes to moderate this site. You have to constantly weed through spammers and legitimate posters. Unfortunately, until proven otherwise, I learned to assume everyone is a spammer....bssage said:
I think that, beyond the idea of helping others, the main idea of asking for 5 posts before you can start a new thread is to prevent automated bots and spamming programs to invade the side with new fake threads containing adds and advertisements (when it's not even porn).Tamarindo said:
It's nothing personal, Tamarindo. It's a safety precaution to prevent the site from being ruined by spammers.
I understand that when a parent has a truly pressing matter going on, and are seeking this community in order to get help, it may not be the best of time to ask for you to help others first.
As Singledad was saying, this rule results in many people posting some useless "me too" 2-words posts in existing thread only so they can post their new thread. Not an ideal situation, I'd think, but there is no perfect way to handle this.
I have also seen many people like you with pressing matter actually posting their problem straight into the introduction forum, even if they aren't supposed to... and in most cases, they are being listened to and helped anyway, because people do understand.
Sadly, many chose not to come back and contribute once their problem is solved. But hey, we do what we can.
Why don't you post your situation and see if someone can help? 5 posts isn't a lot. You can easily get your five posts simply by introducing who you are (which you should do before asking for help anyway, because otherwise how can we help you without background?) and responding to people's welcome just a few times...
What do you prefer - a cold and fake site where you can post your problem immediately but nobody cares, or a true virtual community where, yes, people would rather get to know you first, but they will truly care?
The choice is yours.
Should you decide to stay anyway, welcome.
For those who have genuine (not asinine) concerns over the five post rule - we are actually working with the administrators right now to have it removed. We are not a big fan of it either. Thank you for not being childish about it, like some people. Hopefully it should be gone soon.
Hopefully it should be gone soon.
LMAO!!!! I dang near spit my dinner at the computer!Xero said:See! That's two out of five. That's not so hard, is it?
We all agree the 5 post rule is a pain....a HUGE pain. For now though, it is what it is.
I believe that for both those issues, one needs professional help, not merely support, however well meaning, from an internet forum.NancyM said:
I understand the reason for it. I've always believed there must be a better way, though, so I'm glad to hear you guys are working on it. Thanksbssage said: