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jtee

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I'm sure it wouldn't take too much imagination to know what would have happened if I had taken Fooser's bait, jumped in to the thread posted something. It would have been much worse than just 2 posts. I made the right call because the thread moved forward and nobody else took their bait. If 1Day and Jrrsmom would have been in the thread, I fully expect they too would have been involved.

The comments posted don't really bother me. Based on their track record, I can see where this is headed. My thoughts are why wait until it is spinning out of control before taking action; I see where it is headed, and I want to stop it before it spinning out control and they are posting porn comments and pictures, or whatever else.
 

Kaytee

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the point is not about you JTEE, you just take it personal, as many will. That is the point right there though! We can't allow them to say things about others at all. Even the comment about Lissa having crabs. That is wrong and should not be tolerated.
 

jtee

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I understand what you mean now, and you're correct, I probably do over look his comments when not direct at me. I did see the crabs comments and didn't say anything (I tend to ignore his stuff with Lissa). Which brings me to a PM I received:


http://www.parentingforums.org/f2/parental-neglect-5780.html[/URL]

FooserX said:
Tell them she was struggling while you were trying to have sex with her.

lol....is that like yelling "bomb" on a plane...where you just get into trouble automatically for joking like that?
This is sick, disturbing, and way out of line. This guy shouldn't be anywhere near a parenting forum.[/quote]

I don't know what Fooser intended to mean, but Good Wolf read it to that Fooser was suggesting that this father turn it into a incest joke involving his daughter.
 

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I agree, it should be removed. We as mods need to decide how this site is going to be ran. We may not own it, but we are the ones here and in control (or not in control as it may be) if we want this site to be a no hold bars cest pool then so be it, but if we don't then we need to do something about it before it gets bad agin. I have to sa when mm and fooser were gone, this place was nice to be at
 

jtee

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To me a lot of alarms are going off and he has only been back in the forum for two days. And actually, he was baiting me yesterday; I posted a comment in this thread but deleted my own post deciding to let it slide because I just knew the moment I said anything the three of us would be having this discussion, which is nearly identical to the discussion we had 30 days ago.

Anyway, I will start addressing the issues when I see them. However, I believe if I ask him to do anything, no matter how respectfully I ask, he simply will be more defiant and encourage his gang of on line friends to join him. Yet, I believe that if Fallon asks him to control his behavior, there is a better chance he'll be cooperative.

If Lissa is being manipulative and doing/saying/lying to inflame this, then she needs to be have her power plugged pulled too. I hope it is clear that I don't team up with her in any way. I have no idea what crap she might be feeding Fooser that might motive him to cause problems.
 

Kaytee

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even if he thinks you are just picking on him or whatever, you still need to address it if it comes up. If he throws a hissy fit over it, then the 3 of us will have to stick by each other.
 

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Kaytee said:
even if he thinks you are just picking on him or whatever, you still need to address it if it comes up. If he throws a hissy fit over it, then the 3 of us will have to stick by each other.
this I agree with 100%. I think If jtee stode up for himself they would back off the comments. They do it because they know he won't say anything. and in all reality Lissa started the comments about you in that thread and Fooser and MM followed behind her
 

jtee

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fallon said:
in all reality Lissa started the comments about you in that thread and Fooser and MM followed behind her
And I think it was all planned, so I so don't care which of three started it. They plan the crap out in PMs in advance. Maybe not in full detail, but it is a team effort to do something, this includes lissa. Fooser & MM knew what to do when it was their turn.

And I don't understand why you think we have keep warning them again and again. This the same crap as before, Help me understand why you think they need more and more warnings?

Today I will send a PM to lissa telling her I will ban her myself if she continues to bait. I have no hesitation on banning her if that is what it take to end this.
 

jtee

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fallon said:
They do it because they know he won't say anything.
I thought more about this Fallon, what you are saying is they know what they are doing is wrong, and they do it because they think I (or we) will not do anything about it. From my perspective, I don't think we need play that game. <U>They know it is wrong, and don't care</U> that is what basically what you are saying. They are adults and Parents, I don't think we need to deal with them as if they are small children who forget sometimes or don't always understand the boundardies. I don't want to play the 4 year old game where they immediately test the parent to see if a parent is serious. I am serious, but we aren't their parents.
 

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again the problem is that you can't be pissed off that they do it to you but allow it to happen between them and others. So what if Lissa starts and Fooser continues or whatever. There are no set rules i nthis forum, no rules me they can't break them.
You can't allow Fooser to say Lissa has crabs but be pissy if they say you are a stripper. Seriously, if the issues here are not resoloved then I will leave as well. Its ridiculous that everyone has to be pissy with everyone else
 

jtee

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Kaytee, I fully understand your point, we need to be consistent.

Watch, next week Fooser and the rest of them will continue as they have always done. Attacking/baiting others and each other. I personally believe if Fallon ask Fooser to stop, there is a much better chance he'll stop. He won't respond to me at all.
 

jtee

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I have discussed this matter with my wife and she feels it time for me to resign. Kaytee &amp; Fallon, would you also agree or consider it a good thing for this forum?
 

jtee

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Thanks fallon, I probably will because my wife has made some good points about why resigning is for the best. I will continue to butt heads with you on this issue and that not good for either of us or the forum. :)
 

jtee

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Thanks Kaytee, this forum is just going in a direction that I don't think is right for me as person or as a parent, and I don't see it can be resolved as long as the personal attacks/baiting are permitted. The last 30 days were good, but we are back to the same stuff now that Fooser has returned, and I forsee it staying that way. I am sure you and Fallon will be able to handle things just fine and get it under control with a different style than mine.:)

BTW, Happy Mother's day to the both of you!
 

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thanks jtee...I don't want you to think this is personal. Just because we don't agree on this issue doesn't mean I don't like you or think you are valuble here
 

jtee

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I know it is not personal. I think you need to be given the opportunity to handle Scott (and friends) your way and see it if its effective. It is possible I'm wrong and they will play nice play by your rules and guidance. If you are successful then the forum will grow/move in the right direction to be a great place for all parents who come here for advice/help/etc, not just small few who hang out here. If I am right to some degree, you will experience for yourself why I strongly feel they way that I do. In the end, neither one is likely to be 100% correct.
 

jtee

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http://www.parentingforums.org/56059-post93.html

Scott also needs to stay out of forum moderation business.

I have publicly stated my objection/correction to his comments. I understand his comments "<I>Aren't that bad</I>", but it is still out of bounds for him to be telling another member to stop doing something that is perfectly acceptable.

It would be in Scott's best interest not to respond back. If he does respond, it is likely to be some snide remark to publicly demonstrate his defiances to being "Called out". It is unlikely I will find any humor in a typical <I>Fooser</I> response.