PennQuaker09: WOW. First of all, let me start by saying that if you can't stand to hear anyone's opinion but your own or one that agrees with your own, then you SHOULDN'T BE POSTING IN A DEBATE FORUM!!!!!!
Why don't we just swear at people and point out the fact that we can spell better than them just because they didn't agree with us? I thought we were all adults here on this forum. I sure would hope so, considering it is called a parenting forum. However I am beginning to question this after viewing your incredibly childish behavior. What does it matter how you spell a word as long as everyone knows what you're talking about? So now in order to have your opinion taken seriously you have to have gotten straight A's in spelling all throughout grade school? I didn't realize when I joined this thing that one of the rules were that you had to be a perfect speller and immune to typos in order to post. My bad. I'm sorry, but get over yourself.
Before I defend Gothdad's post, I would like you all to know that I have NO problem with gay people, I have a lot of gay friends and even family, I love them all, I would even go to a gay bar if I got the chance cause I bet it would be oodles of fun. I actually love gay people, although I wouldn't do it myself and I don't like to think about the actual sex part between two men or two women. That would be awkward for me, but whatever for them. AND if my son told me he was gay, not only would I accept him and be proud of whatever he could be or wanted to be (assuming we really talked it over and I made sure he wasn't just confused or anything and he was SURE), but it wouldn't bother me THAT much! Gothdad also did not say that he would hate his son or shun him or make fun of him, he would just be disappointed and he wouldn't agree and wouldn't want to be part of it. I'm not saying that's right! But I KNOW a lot of people feel that way!!! It's a valid thought that a lot of people think about, like hwnorth said, I bet there's a lot of other people on this forum that claim to be perfectly understanding about everything but in REAL life there's a ton of homophobes and racists that are just regular people like the rest of us. As if anyone would admit that.
At least Gothdad has the balls to tell you what he REALLY thinks instead of tiptoeing around agreeing with you so as not to hurt your feelings or seem like a bad person with a real opinion. I didn't read all of this but I bet any money everyone else said gently that they would accept it, because who wants to admit that they wouldn't love every last thing their baby ever did??? And one person says what he thinks opposing everyone else and it's this huge deal and someone (penn) decides he doesn't like it SO MUCH that someone doesn't think HIS WAY that he's going to go all immature and get mad about it and swear and pick on Gothdad's WRITING style like that REALLY matters. GROW UP.
Sorry for gay people that straight poeple happen to think gayness is not the thing for them and would probably rather their kids not end up that way, but wouldn't hate them for it if they did. At least Gothdad was honest, that's all I've got to say. Maybe this topic was brought up so that everyone would agree with accepting it??? Ok. Right. That makes sense (in a debate forum). Hey I brought this topic up in a debate but don't you dare disagree with me. Lol.
And you know what, as far as beastiality and gay sex not being comparable goes, just chill out. Guess what. Beastiality and homosexuality are both incorrect forms of sex, at least traditionally. Just because in AMERICA gay sex is more widely accepted than animal sex doesn't make it anymore correct than any other incorrect form of sex. Neither one is any more liked or disliked in the bible. Sorry about your luck. I'm not saying I care or I think badly of either of those things or one more than the other I'm just saying that unfortunately they are somewhat comparable if you use your brain and think about it with an unbiased mind.
Aunt, I understand nobody liked what Gothdad said, but that's the extent of it. There was nothing about his post that appeared in a joking manner. He was sincerely trying to share how he felt, whether it was right or not. He didn't say he'd beat his kid or do anything terrible. He just didn't like it and didn't agree and found it dissapointing and an insult to him as a parent. He can't have a different opinion? I don't see how that seemed like a joke.
I don't care if people don't like what Gothdad has to say, but you can be an accepting adult about replying to it. Tell people what you think! Tell them you think they're wrong! Tell them what you think as opposed to what they said, go ahead and try to make them see it your way. But come on. Swearing and being mean and getting PERSONAL by picking on spelling just doesn't make sense and you know it, or you SHOULD.
Sorry about the strongness and possible rudeness of this post, but man did that hit me the wrong way.
Why don't we just swear at people and point out the fact that we can spell better than them just because they didn't agree with us? I thought we were all adults here on this forum. I sure would hope so, considering it is called a parenting forum. However I am beginning to question this after viewing your incredibly childish behavior. What does it matter how you spell a word as long as everyone knows what you're talking about? So now in order to have your opinion taken seriously you have to have gotten straight A's in spelling all throughout grade school? I didn't realize when I joined this thing that one of the rules were that you had to be a perfect speller and immune to typos in order to post. My bad. I'm sorry, but get over yourself.
Before I defend Gothdad's post, I would like you all to know that I have NO problem with gay people, I have a lot of gay friends and even family, I love them all, I would even go to a gay bar if I got the chance cause I bet it would be oodles of fun. I actually love gay people, although I wouldn't do it myself and I don't like to think about the actual sex part between two men or two women. That would be awkward for me, but whatever for them. AND if my son told me he was gay, not only would I accept him and be proud of whatever he could be or wanted to be (assuming we really talked it over and I made sure he wasn't just confused or anything and he was SURE), but it wouldn't bother me THAT much! Gothdad also did not say that he would hate his son or shun him or make fun of him, he would just be disappointed and he wouldn't agree and wouldn't want to be part of it. I'm not saying that's right! But I KNOW a lot of people feel that way!!! It's a valid thought that a lot of people think about, like hwnorth said, I bet there's a lot of other people on this forum that claim to be perfectly understanding about everything but in REAL life there's a ton of homophobes and racists that are just regular people like the rest of us. As if anyone would admit that.
At least Gothdad has the balls to tell you what he REALLY thinks instead of tiptoeing around agreeing with you so as not to hurt your feelings or seem like a bad person with a real opinion. I didn't read all of this but I bet any money everyone else said gently that they would accept it, because who wants to admit that they wouldn't love every last thing their baby ever did??? And one person says what he thinks opposing everyone else and it's this huge deal and someone (penn) decides he doesn't like it SO MUCH that someone doesn't think HIS WAY that he's going to go all immature and get mad about it and swear and pick on Gothdad's WRITING style like that REALLY matters. GROW UP.
Sorry for gay people that straight poeple happen to think gayness is not the thing for them and would probably rather their kids not end up that way, but wouldn't hate them for it if they did. At least Gothdad was honest, that's all I've got to say. Maybe this topic was brought up so that everyone would agree with accepting it??? Ok. Right. That makes sense (in a debate forum). Hey I brought this topic up in a debate but don't you dare disagree with me. Lol.
And you know what, as far as beastiality and gay sex not being comparable goes, just chill out. Guess what. Beastiality and homosexuality are both incorrect forms of sex, at least traditionally. Just because in AMERICA gay sex is more widely accepted than animal sex doesn't make it anymore correct than any other incorrect form of sex. Neither one is any more liked or disliked in the bible. Sorry about your luck. I'm not saying I care or I think badly of either of those things or one more than the other I'm just saying that unfortunately they are somewhat comparable if you use your brain and think about it with an unbiased mind.
Aunt, I understand nobody liked what Gothdad said, but that's the extent of it. There was nothing about his post that appeared in a joking manner. He was sincerely trying to share how he felt, whether it was right or not. He didn't say he'd beat his kid or do anything terrible. He just didn't like it and didn't agree and found it dissapointing and an insult to him as a parent. He can't have a different opinion? I don't see how that seemed like a joke.
I don't care if people don't like what Gothdad has to say, but you can be an accepting adult about replying to it. Tell people what you think! Tell them you think they're wrong! Tell them what you think as opposed to what they said, go ahead and try to make them see it your way. But come on. Swearing and being mean and getting PERSONAL by picking on spelling just doesn't make sense and you know it, or you SHOULD.
Sorry about the strongness and possible rudeness of this post, but man did that hit me the wrong way.